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reply posted on 29-10-2008 @ 09:50 PM by Good Wolf
reply to post by constantwonder


Science doesnt try to explain away god, are you serious..... do you follow physics or biology or mathematics? These people believe that their doesnt need to be a god that everything just sprang up by sheer mathematical chance....


100% serious. I already said, God is a supernatural entity (if he exists at all) and therefore cannot be examined by science as science can only examine the natural, Period!

But you don't do much to help yourself by not being able to differentiate between Deity and Religion. Big difference.



reply posted on 29-10-2008 @ 09:53 PM by Good Wolf
reply to post by Clearskies



He was joking FGS.

Robert T Bokker, a world renown paleoanthropologist and evangelical christian says in his book that to interpret the Bible literally is to degrade it's eternal meaning.

Grow up, narrow minded sheep.

[edit on 10/29/2008 by Good Wolf]


reply posted on 29-10-2008 @ 09:55 PM by noobfun
Originally posted by constantwonder

Science doesnt try to explain away god, are you serious..... do you follow physics or biology or mathematics? These people believe that their doesnt need to be a god that everything just sprang up by sheer mathematical chance....


it explains how things do what they do and why they are there

the big bang is the ftheory of how everything got here, it doesn say there was no god, god could have started the big bang, it only cares about what can be tested and proven

no evidence for god so cant be tested or proven



Militant atheism is on the rise. Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, Daniel Dennett, and Christopher Hitchens have dominated bestseller lists with books denigrating religious belief as dangerous foolishness. And these authors are merely the leading edge of a far larger movement–one that now includes much of the scientific community.
were comming ta get ya Boo did i scare ya?

is your faith that insecure your worried? maybe takings are down on the collection plate and your worried youll be asked for more?



Either Jesus had a father or he didn't.
or maybe he never existed or his father was called joseph or fred or .....

The question is a scientific one, and scientific evidence, if any were available, would be used to settle it.
then bring some evidence or join clear in call the carepolice

The same is true of any miracle — and the deliberate and intentional creation of the universe would have to have been the mother and father of all miracles.
or somthing totally different

Either it happened or it didn't.
well were here so i guess it happened but what happened is a difference of opinion ... unless its one of those pyilsophical am i really here things

Humanity's best estimate of the probability of divine creation dropped steeply in 1859 when The Origin of Species was published, and it has declined steadily during the subsequent decades, as evolution consolidated itself from plausible theory in the nineteenth century to established fact today.
shall i build a time machine andgo shoot Darwin becasue your having to work a little harder for convertions?

After evaluating all the scientific evidence—the studies done by reputable institutions on the power of prayer;
was shown to make no real differance but its impossible to do double blind tests unless we can build pray proof rooms

Stenger concludes that beyond a reasonable doubt the universe and life appear exactly as we might expect if there were no God. He convincingly shows that not only is there no evidence for the existence of God, but scientific observations actually point to his nonexistence.
yes there is no evidence he forgot to carve his name in a rock but thats Stengers opinion its just as easy to say there is a god that started it he just forgot to autograph it later


I could do this all day long. Science is just as biased as religion. And yet we may find they actually have more in common that meets the "naked" eye.
give us evidence of god beyond a book thats been shown to be full of inconsitancies with geology archaeology history biology and has had most of it show as pladgerised from many sources or just fraudulently made to bulk out the religoen


reply posted on 29-10-2008 @ 09:55 PM by Clearskies
reply to post by JaxonRoberts



Have you ever heard of 'wolves in sheep's clothing'?
Christians aren't perfect like Jesus, but, they try.(most of them)
The thing is, JESUS HELPS us to overcome evil, if we want Him to.


reply posted on 29-10-2008 @ 10:01 PM by Clearskies
reply to post by Lucid Lunacy



Homosexuality is forbidden in God's eyes.
Just like adultery, or pre-marriage sex.

I had to get rid of boyfriends before I got married, just because they were too worldly.
I was willing to be celibate, if God so wanted. Then He sent my husband to me and we've been married almost 14 years.


reply posted on 29-10-2008 @ 10:05 PM by Good Wolf
reply to post by constantwonder



The narrow mindedness of science? The scientific community basses all it's theories and beliefs based on evidence. Heard of it?!


reply posted on 29-10-2008 @ 10:05 PM by Clearskies
reply to post by noobfun



Not to God.
You might be smart and everything like that, but, God knows you since before you were born.


reply posted on 29-10-2008 @ 10:06 PM by noobfun
reply to post by saturnine_sweet




actually ID has set out exactly what it needs to do to become more then an hypothesis

only when it moves beyond hypothesis and into a working theory can it become a voice of decent or opposition within the scientifc community

the scientists promoting ID understand this unfortunatley its the beleivers shouting demands that dont



reply posted on 29-10-2008 @ 10:07 PM by liveandlearn
reply to post by JaxonRoberts


Sorry, don't know how to use the quote function
You said
"Next I would point out that I have yet to see one person from the Jewish faith defending the Creation myth, and by all rights, it's their story. Now if the originators of the myth don't put any creadence into the myth, why do so many non-Jews feel the need to defend it and advocate it's propogation in place of hard science?"

May I suggest that those who thrust creationism on society are those who require the old testament to justify their own belief. If the Jewish myths are dscounted, Christianty, among other religions, has nothing to stand on.

Just a thought.


reply posted on 29-10-2008 @ 10:10 PM by noobfun
reply to post by Clearskies

then he wont have a problem giving me a call on my phone or sendin me an email pointing me towards the evidence he must have left lying around here somewhere

clear your a bigot narrowminded and thankfully someone i will probabily never ever be stuck in a confined space with thanks the none existant god

maybe you should speak to Pastor Fred about joining Land Over Baptisit church you share common views it seems


reply posted on 29-10-2008 @ 10:11 PM by constantwonder
Originally posted by Good Wolf
reply to
post by constantwonder



The narrow mindedness of science? The scientific community basses all it's theories and beliefs based on evidence. Heard of it?!


Ah there you are wrong my friend. There are many many theories in particle physics mathematics and cosmology that are much better than the accepted paradigms.

One such example is the electromagnetic universe model that gets shunned and called fringe science because the string theorists are sucking up the budget and without making one testable prediction they shoot down other models that have testable provable hypothosys.

[edit on 29-10-2008 by constantwonder]


reply posted on 29-10-2008 @ 10:15 PM by Good Wolf
reply to post by constantwonder



Well that's a squabble among egos if it's true. It happens, there no point denying it. But that is a long way from evolution. 150 years and it hasn't been trumped with evidence against it yet.
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