Originally posted by bubbabuddha

In other words both ways of understanding appear only as models of reality and nothing more, where you lose me science freaks are when you place Ideas or models or theories higher than your own nervous systems, as if they are eternal truths.

how do you mean held higher then our nervous system? i fail to see the comparison or relvance of the nervous system here .... umm little more info please

Gravity tends to work right now, but might not do so at some point in the future, in other words nothing tends to be absolute but relative, and most darwinists hate that fact as well as creationists.

there hasnt been any such thing as a Darwinist for about 120 years so thier opinions are no longer very valid

so you dont like the semi-permanent nature of science and neither do creationists, well that doesnt make it less correct, change and advancement has given us everything we have today, advancment of science has shown overwhelmingly that evolution is a reality we cannot deny unless through sheer ignorance and force of will

id think if the Darwinists came back to life they would approve especially as Darwin himself believed in the privisionality of science. it changes its the best truth we have now

They both tend to ignore the contradictory evidence and shove their own stories down everyones' throats.

you do realise science is one big argument/debate. science doesnt allow you to ignore contradictory evidence becasue some other scientist is gona point and laugh and crate a theory that works including the contradictory evidence and then your screwed

please show me a scientist demanding we teach science in church

please show me a sceintist how has amased a large following and is teaching them religeon is all a lie by simply making stuff up to disprove it

Now I tend to agree that evolution appears more plausible to me, but that would be like saying nothing about 75% of the rest of reality that we don't currently have answers for, so much goes unexplained and also unexamined in my opinion.

then stick around it will get there eventually when it has time, or better yet join in and explore those possabilities your self, we may not hold all the answers but we are getting there slowly

[edit on 5/11/08 by noobfun]

hahahaha your make some odd threads ya know

sorry gotta say it ^_^

think you can get it to catch on like talk like a pirate day?

Originally posted by Good Wolf
Odd guy

hey all i said was you make odd threadds i never once even came close to declaring i wasnt odd myself ^_^

Originally posted by jakyll
It seems that while the Catholic faith is waking up to the importance of science,the Evangelist and their ilk are going the other way.

Well there isn't much incentive for them to is there? Considering the lies and deceit they spin in the sight of evolution and science, I find it difficult to believe that people like Ken Ham and Hovind are in it for the religion side of things, -- no. But I tell you there is a money incentive, creationism is their career.

Originally posted by jakyll
It seems that while the Catholic faith is waking up to the importance of science,the Evangelist and their ilk are going the other way.

i think the catholics see it as a been there done that brought the tee-shirt idea

it was fun the first time but its kinda dull now no real etertainment value