I just received an e-mail in regards to some really wild salute of sorts, which many Obama supporters have been displaying at his rallies. I looked into the History of this symbol, and here is what I discovered [taken from e-mail]:


[MY Analysis]:


Does that hand-sign resemble this in your view?






THIS is the "Odal Rune", a Pagan symbol that was adopted by Die Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, AKA The National Socialist German Workers' Party {ie, NAZI Deutschen (NAZI Germans) }, and it represents the supposed unity amongst those of a Pure Race, Bloodline, or Group. So point in fact, it came to represent the National Socialist Movement (ie, NAZISM).

The Wiking Jugend (Viking Youth), used this symbol up until at least 1994. It was also an emblem worn upon the Uniforms of the 7th SS-Freiwilligen-Gebirgs Abteilung Prinz Eugen (7th SS-Volunteer-Mountain Division Prince Eugen) during WWII. The "Prince Eugen" was also the name of a NAZI Admiral Hipper Class-Heavy Cruiser in use during WWII. (The "Prince Eugen" was seized by the United States Navy, stripped, and then scrapped during Atomic Bomb Testing in the Pacific). Bottom line, this is an SS Symbol.


-TAN




[HERE is where the Original E-mail begins, as sent to me]:




The hands of the Führer organize his speech. This picture captures Hitler's hands as he speaks of the unity of the National Socialist and socialist ideas. See pics below of HITLER VS OBAMA
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Hitler Salute:






Obama Rally Salute:





Obama "Sign Of Progress":



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Im not for Obama, but are suggesting that there is some kind of scheme to somehow bring him up as essentially a new Hitler/fascist archetype?

Come on chap, think.

How exactly would Obama be a neo-nazi if it entailed having to kill any non-WASPs... which of course, includes himself and his own family.

What exactly is the point of this thread? It can't be a smear against Obama surely... its too ridiculous.

This method of propaganda is called "Transfer"

Its when you try and associate a particular target with a loaded or unpleasant symbol that invokes emotion in the audience.

The goal being, when the person sees or hears of the target, these images subconsciously arise in the mind of the audience, and they unknowingly associate the target with the emotions they would attach to their perception of what the symbol means.

This is nothing but a loaded propaganda-ist post.

Originally posted by nj2day
This method of propaganda is called "Transfer"

Its when you try and associate a particular target with a loaded or unpleasant symbol that invokes emotion in the audience.

The goal being, when the person sees or hears of the target, these images subconsciously arise in the mind of the audience, and they unknowingly associate the target with the emotions they would attach to their perception of what the symbol means.

This is nothing but a loaded propaganda-ist post.

History tends to repeat itself. Let's look at similarities...


Hitler was about hope and change (Obama's campaign slogans).

Hitler blamed the rich Jews for the natins troubles (Obama blames the white right).

Hitler was a charismatic speaker (Obama is a charismatic speaker)

Hitler spoke and women fainted (Obama spoke and women fainted)

Hitler had his own flag (Obama has his)

Hitler had his own seal ( Obama has his)

Hitler was a democratic socialist (Obama is a democrat socialist)

Hitler changed the laws of power structure (Obama wants to change the US Constitution).

Hitler was praised in the press (Obama is praised in the press).


There's a few transferable similarities as history threatens to repeat itself yet once again...

You could actually take any person, and find similarities like that...

that is an entirely different propaganda technique in itself... but I don't think that was your intention

Good thread. Whether or not the crowds know what they are endorsing, it shows his ability to manipulate the unthinking masses. They now have a salute to recognize each other with.

Next, he will tell them what to say.

When he tells them what to do (be quiet, sit down, give me your guns), then look out.

Originally posted by jsobecky
Next, he will tell them what to say.

You don't think both campaigns don't already? lol

Propaganda is a powerful weapon...

Originally posted by jsobecky
Good thread. Whether or not the crowds know what they are endorsing, it shows his ability to manipulate the unthinking masses.

First off, this pseudo-swastika thing is a truckload of BS, in my opinion, and (as I said in an earlier post) Reductio ad Hitlerum in its purest form.

As to Obama's ability, he's shown a rare ability to mobilize masses, and we need that in the time of trouble we are in, due to inept, corrupt and often stupid Republican leadership who mostly asked of people to not think.


[edit on 29-10-2008 by buddhasystem]

wouldn't you consider the flag symbol a "Transfer" instead of Reductio?

Actually both campaigns are running a remarkably effective propaganda campaign... Can't limit it to just republicans mate

Obama is not really much like Hitler, he's much more like Joseph Stalin.

Originally posted by neformore


Oooooh

Hitler breathed, and so does Obama

Hitler went to the toilet, and so does Obama

Hitler ate and drank, and so does Obama.

Both of them had two feet and two arms, and ten fingers and toes...uncanny huh???

Sheesh guys. Enough already. This whole smear thing for your election over there is making you all look ridiculous and farcical.

As for the hand sign, it looks to me like hes a Diamond Dallas Page fan. Did you draw similarities to that when DDP was tearing up WCW and WWE?

I think not....

happens every 4 years lol

we get used to it over here...

I take this time to try and understand methods used to manipulate people's thoughts and opinions

seems a good a time as any