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Why would you NOT vote for Obama?

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posted on Oct, 29 2008 @ 04:10 AM
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Good morning everyone...

The topic is: Why would you NOT vote for Obama.

Let's stay on topic, and leave personalities out of it.




posted on Oct, 29 2008 @ 04:13 AM
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The actual costs may have been inflated, I completely admit that, but 111 of the 188 programs in Senator Obama's Campaign promises were in there. Considering how quickly the dollar is losing value, even the inflated cost projections are not completely false.

I realize that Obama supporters will stick to him, no matter what. Myself and many others are completely undecided still. Looking at 2 bad choices and trying to make the best one is still making a bad choice. Third party vote is basically throwing away your vote, as no third party candidate will win any state.

Obama's political career has been a rocket speed rise to the point where he is now up for President. Not enough of his history is available for the media or the public to vet him in any way. That which is available has been spuin so many ways that many americans are convinced that bad is good and good is bad.

Honesty and integrity are not part of Campaign.

Just because Obama says it isn't true, doesn't MEAN it isn't true. Lying doesn't change the facts, but too many people are believing the lies, or worse, completely overlooking them and saying, it doesn't matter that the man is lying through his teeth.

And the crazy part... I am so socially liberal it isn't funny, but I still don't like liars.



posted on Oct, 29 2008 @ 04:19 AM
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Originally posted by redhatty
Third party vote is basically throwing away your vote, as no third party candidate will win any state. .


Correct they will not win.

It's not throwing it away though. Not if your intention is to support the party itself. The only way we will ever transcend our two party system is if enough people give 3rd party support.



posted on Oct, 29 2008 @ 04:19 AM
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I'll say

Ats has taught me something about politics and this election



They both really stink


I'm hooking up an electrode to my computer that shocks me whenever I type the words Obama or McCain

I don't honestly even like their names

Obama/Osama it's just creepy and strange

and Mc Cain

What is that?

Mc.. as in Mc Donalds

and Cain as in the first Murderer

what does that mean... with him we get a Fast Death?

It feels like that is seriously my choice...

Obama a slow Terror of a Death

and Mc Cain.... a Faster way to die

I'm so not excited by either of these fellows, what's all the frenzy about for any of them... I tried to defend McCain in here... because I want a fast Death

and that's really why I liked him... I figure Nuclear war and get it over with vs... another 10 years of social police and labor...

In theory

I can survive a Nuclear war

and that really is my Rationale for offering Mc Cain my vote... in essence, it really is



You think I'm kidding Right?

The thought really crosses my mind... that under Obama I might not be able to afford my Bomb Shelter upstate but Under McCain I can still rip off the system for a while...prior to 2012 and have a shot at living through this

and that after all is a fantastic way to be thinking right?

But I am ENTIRELY SERIOUS

and that's just... messed up, but frighteningly... it's not a bad plan all things considered

Like with Obama

an actual revolution or civil war is more likely

and that would totally interfere with my survival plans...

because i don't want people running amok or heading to the hills, prior to the devastation... it lowers my chances of survival

If the assault and doom comes from International circles... via Mccain Most Americans that didn't plan will just die

and it's really weird because the guy with the terrorist name offers the more terrifying end for us all... a Nuke war with foreign powers is so quick and painless for those that were too dense to see it coming, much more humane

But being beat on at the grocery store for a can of Spam is just awful, really it is



So there

I admit it

My Vote is for Mccain because I want the end to be quick and fast...either I live or I die and I know and with everyone blown up in a war, I can get on with surviving in peace or die in peace...

But Obama with his Iran trips and socialism... is going to prolong thios whole thing and leave me poor while it happens

That just is rotten...

At least a nuke fight gets rid of the cops and i can go Mad max....

Honesty hurts huh?

Love those candidates guys...
, they sure are worth fighting over!














posted on Oct, 29 2008 @ 04:23 AM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Oct, 29 2008 @ 04:27 AM
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Sorry, the only way we will transcend the 2 party system is with either a coup, civil war, or complete takeover by a foreign country. Anything else is just folly. I can support the third parties and their ideals, but all that boils down to is, forgive me, pissing in the wind. It will not, at this current stage of our countries development, make one single bit of difference.

Harsh, but true



posted on Oct, 29 2008 @ 04:33 AM
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The more people involved in 3rd party, the more mainstream media coverage it will get. This will generate more interest and therefore more support. There is a critical threshold that has to be reached and they will be viable candidates. But this only applies to the Popular Vote.

I have some serious suspicions of the Electoral College, and I am not so certain the Government is interested in adopting another party in...



posted on Oct, 29 2008 @ 05:20 AM
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what a stupid thread title. So, if you want to vote for Obama you can not reply here?



Vote for Obama because republicans have ruined this country and they're now busy bailing out the fat wall street bankers with your tax payer money.




Vote for change!



posted on Oct, 29 2008 @ 05:25 AM
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Well in all fairness there is no rules against creating a thread like that.

Maybe the thread was just created for people who have decided not to vote for Obama. I don't see a problem with that.

Of course, I am sure the OP fully expected Obama supporters would join in with a play on words
Which was fun I must say.



posted on Oct, 29 2008 @ 06:29 AM
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I would not vote for obamassiah because:

The most liberal senator

He supports abortion that not even some abortion rights approve of...

He is a lair

He is not even an american

He has friends like Ayres, Wright, PLO terrorist,

He hates america as does his wife

He thinks the constitution is too "restraining" on the Government

He will use the courts to suppress free speech and pound his tax law down our throats




[edit on 29-10-2008 by heliosprime]



posted on Oct, 29 2008 @ 06:30 AM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Oct, 29 2008 @ 06:42 AM
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Originally posted by jsobecky
He (Obama) represents 4 more years of WORSE.



Sorry man, it does not get any "worse" than Bush.

Even McCain would be better than Bush, albeit only about 10% better.



posted on Oct, 29 2008 @ 06:44 AM
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This isn't a free society this is a private forum


I believe it was removed for the same reasons the other ones were; they were off topic.

Even this one will probably be removed due to being off topic.



posted on Oct, 29 2008 @ 06:45 AM
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That's a list of reasons why I would "NOT" vote for Obama.

The thread is called - Why would you NOT vote for Obama?

I'm not too sure. But I think that's an "on-topic" answer, brother.




posted on Oct, 29 2008 @ 06:47 AM
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I was not saying yours was not


You were asking about Roosters.

And when I said "this one" I was literally talking about my own post


[edit on 29-10-2008 by Lucid Lunacy]



posted on Oct, 29 2008 @ 06:49 AM
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Wait a second.

What else did he say in his post - this Rooster character? It had to be more for it to have been removed for an "Extreme TC Violation."

I copied and pasted the content of the reply that contained Rooster's post.

My question was - why did it get labeled as a TC violation if he answered the thread question? Was there more that I'm not seeing - (obviously)?

Ah! Sorry for my snarky response then - I thought you meant my post. My bad.


[edit on 29-10-2008 by mf_luder]



posted on Oct, 29 2008 @ 06:55 AM
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Ah, I just assumed it was an off-topic offense, and I don't recall the content. I am not sure, I know the T & C pretty well but honestly it's best if you just u2u the mod himself (or herself).



posted on Oct, 29 2008 @ 07:38 AM
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Well I for one will never vote for anyone that swears an oath to uphold and protect the constitution then votes to harm it.That includes almost any democrat and republican in office right now.Obama,McCain,Clinton,O'Connell
etc.I will make every effort to keep these people from being re elected also.
As far as I'm concerned if they want to commit treason they should face the
full wrath of the people.Kind of a hard thing to get across when people have no idea what the constitution is though.



posted on Oct, 29 2008 @ 08:24 AM
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Two words.

the constitution.


More specifically, the 2nd amendment.



posted on Oct, 29 2008 @ 08:40 AM
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Maybe it's because he is untrustworthy,he seems to get flustered easily,they make fun of Palin but she does answer questions,Obama steps around his answers,he has a hidden agenda and his running mate has been silenced for letting the cat out of the bag



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