Clerk charged with unlawful search of Joe the Plumber, page 1
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Topic started on 28-10-2008 @ 05:22 PM by mabus325

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Toledo Police have confirmed that a TPD records clerk is accused of performing an illegal search of information related to 'Joe the Plumber.' Julie McConnell, has been charged with Gross Misconduct for allegedly making an improper inquiry into a state database in search of information pertaining to Samuel Wurzelbacher on Oct. 16.


Welcome to 1984. Big Brother is watching you!!!


reply posted on 28-10-2008 @ 05:31 PM by vor78
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True. But which is it? Do you believe it should be illegal or not?



reply posted on 28-10-2008 @ 05:37 PM by SugarJ
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Sadly i think it is human nature.. I worked for a MAJOR NY bank and you would be amazed at how many tellers/officers would look up celebrities accounts and charge card activity.

The Jennifer Hudson story in the news currently mentioned that the suspect has a myspace page. I know a bunch of ppl that HAD to go look for it. I am aware that a social networking site and a police department arent in the same league... but i also realize that human nature and curiosity are part of our makeup. These things happen when individuals are thrust in the spotlight. I doubt the woman was going to DO anything with the information that she found, but it wasn't a bright move.


reply posted on 28-10-2008 @ 05:47 PM by Anonymous ATS
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Sounds like he's agreeing with FBI using the Patriot Act, and saying the clerk should be allowed to perform illegal computer searches. Otherwise, why would've he brought it up in the first place? Unless, he's suggesting it was OK for the clerk to do the illegal search simply because Joe asked Obama a simple and truthful question the media refused to ask him.


reply posted on 28-10-2008 @ 05:51 PM by davion
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True. But which is it? Do you believe it should be illegal or not?


If it's illegal for a clerk to do it then I don't understand how it can be legal for a government agency to do it.

How do you feel about it? Do you think what the clerk did is wrong, and in that same vein do you think the Patriot Act is wrong?


reply posted on 28-10-2008 @ 06:03 PM by vor78
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I think that its wrong in the case of the clerk without question. I'm on the fence regarding the Patriot Act. I do not believe that it should be used to spy on the population without a reason, but the government does have an obligation to protect its citizens, so in a way, I can see their argument. However, in this particular case, it would be a clear abuse of power regardless of who committed the act, given that this guy was guilty of nothing more than asking a question.


reply posted on 28-10-2008 @ 06:35 PM by davion
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They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin

That's all I have to say about that, really.



reply posted on 28-10-2008 @ 07:01 PM by vor78
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I think that's partially true, but virtually all of our laws exist in order to promote public safety and security and all of those laws are curtailing someone's freedom in order to do that. For example, a person cannot legally drive 100mph down the highway if they desire and obviously, this is for public safety reasons. As long as there is government, there will be checks upon individual freedoms in the name of greater public good.


reply posted on 28-10-2008 @ 07:51 PM by davion
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Sounds like a classic case of "Do as I say not as I do" to me.
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