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Originally posted by TravisT
-With that being said: How do we know for a fact how high the objects are in the picture? From someone just saying what he thinks the distance was?
-How do you know for a fact how all objects will come out in an IR camera? Are you a professional, or have extensive background experience that can backup your claims?
-Why are these UFOs not in formation? For something that is being controlled by some sort of higher intelligence, I would imagine that they would be more uniform then what the pic shows us. Even fighter jets stay in perfect formation. I normally see this kind of formation in bird species.
What do you think is the point of this forum? If you think me denying the ignorance for this thread is bad, then I find that insulting to this forum alone.
Originally posted by silver6ix
If your position is to deny the facts given then discussion has no merit and you would be as well not posting in the topic.
Again, I was just giving another side to the story, you have shown me yours. Whats the point?
A normal near IR camera has a very small sensitivity, which is why as I said before when IR tech is used for monitoring bird migrations, in order to get a "dot" they use very large fixed mount devices with huge reflectors and much more sensitive equipment to gather the signatures.
You dont need to be a professional or an expert to fathom the obvious from the facts, anyone could check the facts, nobody does.
If the object in question still hasn't been identified, then I imagine that it is *drum roll please* unidentified. You may also want to reconsider where you're at, and what these threads pertain to.
Nobody has said they were being controlled by anything, in fact nobody has even decided what they are beyond UFO, UNIDETIFIED flying objects.
That being said theres no reason for them to exhibit any kind of predetermined behavior. The only thing you could draw is when considering what they are NOT how the formation might support that.
The reason for unified formation would be to exhibit some sort of intelligence. The formation that is shown looks like that out of a lower intelligent being(ie. birds) or something randomly scattered in the sky, perhaps being a meteorite.
Even if they were alien craft id see no defining reason that they must be in formation either.
You may be missing my point. The formation looks to be a "flying V", that's not the point. The point, is it is a scattered formation, meaning it has no superior intelligence telling it to keep its formation. Sure, its a V, but its scattered.
As for birds, birds do have formations, specific formations namely the V. Theres nothing in that formation that can be said to INDICATE a bird formation because it simply isn't a known formation.
You don't know for a fact how far the objects are.
Still, with birds I come back to the original point. I dont think a bird that far off (as it would have to be to appear so small) would be visible on a near IR cam with that sensitivity.
Originally posted by TravisT
reply to post by Phage
Not to get a little rude about it, but I think we need some proof other then what he said he thinks he saw. He has also said a flame was talking to him, while giving us "photographic evidence".
I don't believe any claims without actual proof. Plain and simple.
Originally posted by HankMcCoy
reply to post by silver6ix
silver6ix, with all due respect...
Just shut up.
You have proven to not know anything about anything and being the loudest doesn't make you right.
The height IS in question.
The speed IS in question.
Whether or not the objects were visible to the naked eye IS in question.
Even DK himself told me he is entertaining the possibility that these were bugs and is taking some test shots to see if it is possible.