Practical Application of Redistribution of Wealth

The only difference is that a server might only make around $50 a day. In this case that $10 might be a huge difference compared to a corporate executive that has millions for example. You can take away a couple hundred thousand dollars and he will still be a millionare. Im not trying to knock you in anyway. Im just saying that redistribution of wealth makes more sense on a larger scale.

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The rich also increased their salaries while the poor & middle class saw very little increase, if any at all. The rich may have paid more taxes. However, during that same period, the rich got richer and everyone else got poorer.

If the wealth of the rich is not redistributed and they continue to get richer, while everyone else gets poorer, then eventually the rich will have ALL the money and there will be none left to buy their goods and services...THEN WHAT?

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The rich also increased their salaries while the poor & middle class saw very little increase..

Don't have numbers on poor or middle income will look around...

Obama might agree that this is true, but only because the income share of the top earners has climbed so much. But Treasury Department data contradict this argument: the top 10 percent received about 46 percent of the income in 2000 and about 47.3 percent in 2006. The number may well have declined again after that. So the tax share of the rich has gone up a lot more since 2000 than their income share has.

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another good find that Bush tax cuts weren't as bad as Obama makes them out to be

Ten Myths About the Bush Tax Cuts

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I can assure you that the poor and middle class did not gain in that period. The extra taxation went to that nightmare of a situation over in the middle east. 10 billion a month to be (approximately) exact. Now a 700 billion bailout...OUCH, that's gonna hurt! I don't care if it's Obama or McCain, either one will HAVE to raise taxes for EVERYONE. They can promise all they want, but we all know how many campaign promises ever get fulfilled. VERY LITTLE!

Another thing to consider, not only did you screw the waiter out of his/her tip. I don't know where you're located, but here in California servers are taxed on their tips, whether they receive them or not. If that's the case where you are not only did you "redistribute" the wealth by screwing the server out of their tip, but took money out of their pocket for your retarded experiment.

I do agree that wearing buttons or anything showing political affiliations should have no place in the work environment. Something to be brought up with management not the staff.

It's funny how so many of you are against Redistribution in this case, but not the way Obama describes it.

I’m assuming if we found out that this waiter did in fact make $250,000 a year that you wouldn't be upset about it?

Redistribution is fine as long we are taking money from "rich" people right? That isn't really "fair" though is it?

**Edit to add: Or is it $150 K a year?**

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I think it's funny how you continue to call this redistribution, when clearly the waiter never touched it. I guess that's just too complicated for you to understand?

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Really? Because I don't plan on ever touching it either if it's taken from me through taxes.

Was just wondering. Are you the author of this or did you get it from somewhere?

It seems to be all over the Internet already.

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So, you didn't actually do it, you plagiarized it. Why am I not surprised?

I was going to say that what you did was a stupid and cruel thing to do. But since you didn't even do it and lied about it, I'll just say that THAT was stupid and cruel thing to do.

:shk: "You will know their names"

Originally posted by nyk537
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Really? Because I don't plan on ever touching it either if it's taken from me through taxes.

REALLY? Because if it is taken from you through taxes, then only a PORTION is being redistributed. In this case, you just chose not to tip, and instead, just gave the whole thing away. That is NOT redistribution of wealth...just a poor way to treat someone who was REQUIRED to wait on you and will have to do it again when you go back...even knowing that you STIFFED him on his tip.

I don't agree with you. You just exploited the situation. Let me give you an example. Before coming to USA years ago, I was walking in desert and felt the urge to urinate. So I sat down beside a bush and relieved myself. Within seconds flies swamped out of no where over wet area, because they were thirsty. When I immigrated here. Any party that I went to, people would be discussing new cars, homes and material things that they baught. I questioned some people don't these people have anything else to discuss. I got the response from a very smart person. He said did you ever see hungry person. He be talking nothing but food. Our government keep us half fed. They deliberately keep you that way so you are in control and keep on working. Any time people feel comfortable, they have all the data. What they call curbing inflation, and take some of your wealth away through taxes and other means. If you are a businessman, through your accountant , you bypass some of these tactics. Comparatively you feel more comfortable than working class. I hope you understand the principle and don't insult the wisdom of people like Obama.



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I never claimed that this was a personal story, I just posted the story. Being that it's all over the internet right now, I made the mistake of assuming people would figure that out. Nowhere in my replies did I attempt to take credit for this.

Furthermore, the personal aspect of this is not the intent of the thread, but rather it is the implication of redistribution of wealth. You want to take shots at me and try to discredit the story that way, fine, but your only dancing around the issue.

Ignoring the message and going after the messenger is something liberals are fairly good at.

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i have a question for you. if the tax increase was only for people making over $250,000 and would never increase in any lower brackets, would you still be against it? or are you against it because you fear it will eventually increase for lower tax brackets as well? or are u simply against any kind of wealth distribution?

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EXCEPT...your story starts: "Yesterday I...". But more importantly and more sadly, is that you thought this was a story worthy of posting...Do you seriously believe that this is an example of redistribution....rhetorical question, as you obviously do....otherwise, why post it.

NOTE TO MODS: This really should be move to the political jokes section...or at least short stories.

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The fallacy in "your" story has already been revealed. There's no need for me to repeat it.

As for your other comment: Plagiarism on ATS

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You continue to prove my point on attacking the messenger rather than the message, but that's fine.

What's more, this is nothing more than a message board post that's been floating around, much like a mass email. If you can find me a source of origin for this, I'll gladly update my post to reflect that.

But again, that isn't the issue here is it?

Cmon guys...taking money from the rich and giving it to the poor is not "equality"...its theft. There is no "logical fallacy" to consider here.


And another thing: Just because some of us arent falling for this socialist robin hood BS, doesnt mean we´re going to vote McCain/Palin. Im certainly not.

Originally posted by Skyfloating
Cmon guys...taking money from the rich and giving it to the poor is not "equality"...its theft. There is no "logical fallacy" to consider here.

Couldn't agree with you more. Thus my strong opposition to any form of redistribution of wealth.

And another thing: Just because some of us arent falling for this socialist robin hood BS, doesnt mean we´re going to vote McCain/Palin. Im certainly not.

I'm not asking anyone to. I'd only suggest that you don't vote Obama if you don't want this socialist robin hood BS to become policy.

lets call it using some of the money of the rich in order to benefit society as a whole.