reply to post by TKainZero
Don ... Can you give an nice summary about the State of 'Israel' in the modern (post WWII) era? And what happen in the Israeli elections?
In 5,000 words or less?
Prior to 1948, private property in old Palestine was owned about 80-90% by native Arabs or Palestinians as we have come to call them. 10%-20% by
Jewish people. Arabs claim 90% and Jewish people claim 20%. Jewish refugees or survivors from War 2 were flocking into Palestine driving the British
mad as they tried to keep viable their League of Nations mandate until the UN could take it over.
Then the United Nations under the urging of the United States created the State of Israel in May, 1948. Arab rejection launched the Israeli War of
Independence. The better motivated Israelis pushed back the native Arabs who had some help most notably from Jordan, but also a little from Egypt and
Syria. The Arabs agreed to a cease-fire or Armistice.
The UN drew the Armistice Line which turned into a jumbled mess without adding in the life-death antagonisms felt by the 2 warring sides it was
meant to keep apart. A failure. 1949.
1956 saw Israel join France and Great Britain - I use that name in preference to UK by intent as it was more old British empire thinking that drove
the British into the Suez war - but Eisenhower wanted nothing of that and “ordered” Britain and France OUT of Suez. We were still paying the bills
then so they had to go.
Things rocked along until June, 1967, when Israeli intelligence pointed to a joint attack by Egypt and Syria. The one-eyed tank commander Moshe Dyan
trained by ex-Nazi Blitzkrieg generals, surprised even Israel’s PM Levi Eshkol by the success in what came to be known as the Six Day War. June 5 to
June 10, 1967.
Jews enjoyed boasting that like GOD, after 6 days they too rested. Added up, Israel’s IDF had captured not only the Golan, but also the West Bank -
ancient Samaria and Galilee occupied by Jordan under the UN Armistice - East Jerusalem and Gaza. Israel lost relatively few men whereas the Arabs lost
1000s.
At this point moderate Israelis began to speak of Land for Peace. The public was about evenly divided, 48% Yes on peace and 48% No on peace. Labor was
for peace, Likud was for more. The balance of power in the 120 seat Knesset fell to the ULTRA Conservative Religious parties. Long and short is the
Likud made a bargain giving the Religious control over much of Israel civil law in return for their support to form a government. Opportunity missed.
The 1973 Yom Kippur War was commenced by Egypt and Egypt nearly overwhelmed Israel. Mossad intelligence failure. It is reported that the Israeli PM
warned the Egyptians that he would use the Sampson Option rather than see Israel defeated. That was a threat to atom bomb the Aswan High Dam. That in
turn would flood the Nile all the way to the Meditererrean Sea, killing 10-20 million Egyptians. Or more. In any case Jimmy Carter brokered a peace
which holds to this day.
In 1983, Israel attacked Lebanon and remained in the area next to Israel until 2003. Then, Israel again attacked the Lebanese in 2006. Lebanon is a
failed state. Lebanon began in 1920 as a COMMUNION state in which the Maronite Catholics (30% of the population) were given control of the government
by the occupying French. That is still the root cause of the Lebanese tragedy. Positions are allocated to COMMUNIONS that is, by religion. The
majority Lebanese are Muslims, but cannot get equal representation in the Parliament.
First Ariel Sharon and now Elmud Olmert of the old Likud Party have both failed to end the crisis between the Arabs and Jewish people both claiming
the same land. I believe elections are to be held in February, 2009. I regret to report that the land for peace forces - say Labor - has declined in
popular support. If the conservatives win, it will be more war, but if the liberals win, there is a 30/70 up to a 50/50 chance for peace.
We cannot resolve the al Qaeda problem until we resolve the Arab Israeli conflict. Arabs blame the US (and Jews depend entirely on US support). The
minimum the Arabs will accept is the West Bank, Gaza and the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. The Temple Mount being Holy Site #3 in Islam. The al Aqba
Mosque and the Dome of the Rock. Jerusalem must be shared. The West Wall (Wailing Wall) is the #1 Holy Site in Judaism. All Jewish settlements must be
removed promptly. An unobstructed roadway between the West Bank and Gaza must be provided.
In return the State of Israel has a right to expect an unarmed New Palestine. Only police type arms will be allowed. The borders between New Palestine
and Israel must be “normalized.” I believe the US could/should provide 10,000 soldiers for 10 years as border guards and to enforce peace by
aiding the two sides to disarm their citizens and to enforce their own laws against violence which both have.
We could have peace, but as they like to say, time is running out. I have heard that for more than 30 years, by the way. It must be a very large hour
glass?
Thanks my take.
[edit on 11/14/2008 by donwhite]