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reply posted on 27-10-2008 @ 11:41 PM by AdmiralX
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
What's funny is that these suits don't challenge the fact that Obama was born in Hawaii and therefore is a "natural-born" citizen. They just make
all sort of assumptions about his Kenyan citizenship (which he lost when he turned 21) and his supposed Indonesian citizenship, which
nobody's sure he ever had.
Seems to me that if Obama was legally adopted and became a citizen of Indonesia and renounced his US citizenship, there'd be a record of that
somewhere.
Wonder why Berg couldn't find that...
There people are wasting their time and the courts' resources.
It is a DOS attack on the courts to DISTRACT from voter suppression issues. Also, they should be fined and punished for FRIVOLOUS lawsuits. I called
Berg from his website (610-662-3005) and the guy is BALL OF RAGE. Fraud this, F that, threatening me with harassment. His number is on his web site,
and all I did was ask, "Are you serious?" He went off, hung up on me after I called him, then called me back to rage some more. I could not stop
laughing.
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reply posted on 28-10-2008 @ 01:50 AM by gotrox
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As for posting his birth cert----nada--cert of live birth without an embossed seal.
I actually had to order one with the official raised seal to get a passport, so how does some elitist get the top job without producing same?
Funny how the Governator of Hawaii has his "vault copy" sealed.
Interesting how his school records sealed so no one knows whether he went as a U.S. citizen, or as a foreign aid recipient.
All I can guess is that he is holding off till just before the election, when he will release all the requested documents and fatally sink McCain's
chances at the last minute.
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reply posted on 28-10-2008 @ 08:00 AM by Benevolent Heretic
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Originally posted by gotrox
As for posting his birth cert----nada--cert of live birth without an embossed seal.
His certificate has an embossed seal. See the photo here:
Born in the USA
I actually had to order one with the official raised seal to get a passport, so how does some elitist get the top job without producing
same?
He HAS produced it. Just not personally to ATS members.  People here talk like they want it delivered to their front door for verification. Do you
think there's no one in the FEC, Congress, the State Department who has asked for verification of Obama's and McCain's eligibility?
Funny how the Governator of Hawaii has his "vault copy" sealed.
I should hope so. I hope all of his personal papers are "sealed".
Interesting how his school records sealed so no one knows whether he went as a U.S. citizen, or as a foreign aid recipient.
Golly, we don't know how many people he killed to get into school, either...  I demand he release his police record! I want to know his
kindergarten grades! (Sorry, but what do his school records from thirty years ago have to do with ANYTHING???)
All I can guess is that he is holding off till just before the election, when he will release all the requested documents and fatally sink McCain's
chances at the last minute.
People who want to see his birth certificate are NOT going to vote for him anyway! The only people calling for his "papers" are those who hate him
and want to discredit him. They want him to be ineligible so McCain will win. His voters don't give a crap about seeing more proof! We've seen his
birth certificate and that's enough! He's a Senator. That's enough.
These lawsuits should be thrown out (and they will be).
It's interesting to her what an angry jerk Berg is. He's desperate to discredit Obama. Wonder what his problem is...
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reply posted on 28-10-2008 @ 02:17 PM by Grafilthy
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The Seattle lawsuit just failed.
SEATTLE — A King County judge has thrown out a lawsuit challenging Barack Obama's qualifications to be president. The secretary of state's
office says Superior Court Judge John Erlick dismissed the lawsuit on Monday. It claimed Obama's U.S. citizenship was in question, saying that could
make him ineligible for the presidency. The plaintiff, Steven Marquis of Fall City, claimed Obama may have been a citizen of his father's native
Kenya, or became a citizen of Indonesia when he lived there as a boy. Obama was born in Hawaii to an American mother and a Kenyan father. After
his parents divorced, Obama's mother married an Indonesian man. A similar lawsuit was thrown out of U.S. District Court in Philadelphia on
Friday.
These judges are all just pawns of the liberal media!!  
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reply posted on 28-10-2008 @ 04:06 PM by davion
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Once the Supreme Court strikes down Berg's appeal then this will all be over.
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reply posted on 28-10-2008 @ 04:45 PM by Anonymous ATS
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It will follow him into the White House (according to what Judge Surrick ruled "there are no "injury to the plaintiff") since once he is elected
he can be sued (the "injury" being his election as President. I believe we may see history being made as Obama may be the first President-Elect to
be disqualified and the first time the Presidency will be vacant. It can happen, don't think it can't. There are too many factors involved for
this not to play out. Somehow Obama will have to prove his citizenship, whether he wants to or not. Mark these words.
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reply posted on 9-11-2008 @ 03:06 PM by Anonymous ATS
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I say we citizens of the US get a class action going and maybe then the Supreme Court will take us more seriously.
We as citizens, have the right to know for certain, that Obama is eligible for the Presidency.
As for his so called birth certificate, I saw the one he posted on his website. Popeycock. The nationality of his father says "african". Back in
1961, they didn't use that term, they said either "negro", or "colored". And, the borders don't match with the other birth certificates of that
time period.
Even if he was born in Hawaii, allegations that he held a citizenship in Indonesia shortly thereafter (which at the time did not allow dual
citizenships) means his mother or parents had to have renounced their US citizenship, which can never be regained. So right there, he would have been
disqualified.
Wake up people. You voted for Barack because you were more concerned with your own personal bank account than the health of this Country. And why is
it that Muslims and islamic extremists all over the world (mostly the middle east) are rejoicing that Barack got elected? Are you all that blind that
you can't see something is amiss here????
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reply posted on 9-11-2008 @ 09:24 PM by Anonymous ATS
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uuhhh i thought they put the nationality has African was because his father was from Kenya. which the last time i checked was in Africa. making his
father a African.
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reply posted on 10-11-2008 @ 09:15 PM by Anonymous ATS
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reply posted on 10-11-2008 @ 10:34 PM by Anonymous ATS
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Does one not have to provide birth records to even be a senator??????
Or can any regular joe/al-queda/nazi/illegal immigrant/super-hero just show up one day and get elected.?
I had to provide a mountain of documents just to gain employment with a state agency... (birth cert., drivers license, school transcripts, military
records, social security number, finger prints, photograph).
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reply posted on 11-11-2008 @ 08:29 AM by Anonymous ATS
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reply posted on 24-11-2008 @ 03:28 PM by ShadowMaster
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I am tired of this in general and hopefully this will be put to bed soon. It's odd-I could have sworn there was a thread about this already.
How about this.... Why doesn't he just show his orginal certificate and be done with it. I voted for McCain- so what...If this was about McCain I
would say the same thing. Weather or not I voted for this man, I still and so does everyone else, have the right to know.
Its a shame that he chose Clinton's Comrads (like Hogan's Heros) to shore up his cabinet... I hope that he will make some sound judgements...but we
will see.
On a side note, it was said recently, that he will be CIC (Commander and Chief) and just like the military-you may not respect the man, but you should
respect the office.
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reply posted on 24-11-2008 @ 03:35 PM by ShadowMaster
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Well, it might have gone further if it had not been brought in King County-which is a hot bed on Liberalism.
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reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 10:57 PM by Anonymous ATS
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I am tired of the misdirection and lies of people who continue to defend Obama.
Most of us only wants Obama to "RELEASE HIS ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE". Have it validated by an independent party. This is the only way the
United States of America will be able to move forward.
Calling people crazy and extreme will only get you so far....OBAMA MUST AUTHORIZE LINDA LINGLE TO RELEASE HIS B.C. or this mess is going to get worse.
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reply posted on 27-1-2009 @ 05:30 AM by Anonymous ATS
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If you notice, Philip Berg asks for money on his website. Is he trying to make a cottage industry by filing spurious lawsuits ? He is the same guy
that filed a RICO suit against Bush and Cheney claiming they planned the 911 attacks. He has also been fined in the past for being a crappy lawyer.
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