reply to post by Scramjet76
That star came from me. That is an excellent post Scram, filled with excellent points.
Our Hollywood culture would have us believe anyone can have a 9mm in each hand and easily be able to blow multiple guys away. The truth is guns
are dangerous and they are not easy to shoot for a novice or average shooter.
You just hit one of my pet peeves. Hollywood would also have us holding that 9mm sideways and somehow not jamming it or getting hit in the face with
I worry a lot about how the movies have warped our perception of reality. I see a lot of science fiction even on these boards touted as though it were
science fact. We tend to believe what we see on that big screen is somehow real. Sure, the special effects for the most part are awesome today, but we
have to remember that this is still computer-generated or illusionary images on a screen. Life does not follow the same rules as Hollywood.
I would stress to folks the best protection is awareness of one's environment. Having a good "spider sense" will further minimize the
already very low chance of you getting killed by joe nutcase in life.
I keep getting errors about trying to give more than one star every time I read this part.
You hit the nail on the head. A gun is not a
guarantee against attack, nor is it even an effective weapon against a close attacker with training. The best form of self-protection is indeed
awareness, coupled with a good sense of danger.
That's not to say a gun doesn't have a use, however. I'm just saying that it is not the only weapon in an effective arsenal.
If you must pack a weapon I would vote for the trenchcoat and sawed-off shotgun like Michael Bien has in the Terminator.
Unfortunately, in the USA, such a weapon is strictly illegal. A shame really, especially since the law was based on one thing and one thing only: an
attempt to curb mob violence by attacking and outlawing their preferred weapon of choice.
You really give the bad guys that much credit?
Yeah, I really do. I am sure you have seen the TV shows like "The World's Dumbest Criminals
" and the Darwin Awards are famous. But here
again, that is not reality. Criminals run the entire gamut from complete babbling idiot to borderline genius. They are not criminals because they are
dumb; they are criminals because they have no respect for others or the law.
They also have one attribute that comes with living a criminal lifestyle: that same sense of danger that was mentioned earlier. You can call it a
"spidy-sense" or street smarts or ESP, but the average criminal knows instinctively who is and is not an easy target, who is and is not a danger if
attacked, and who is and is not carrying valuables. Obviously this case was more about revenge than profit, but the same rules apply. A criminal will
know where to attack, or they will be a one-hit wonder in that 'career'. The ones you see on TV are the ones who got caught, either through
stupidity or more commonly through a mistake in using their judgment.
Also, you should realize the difference between being caught by law enforcement and being attacked oneself. In the former case, worst case, one is
sent to prison for a long time (the death penalty, while in effect, is so long and drawn out, with so many possibilities of reprieve it is essentially
useless as a deterrent in its present form). Inside the cells, prisoners have everything they need given to them, including nutritious and delicious
food, color TV, libraries, conjugal visits, Internet access, weight training, sports, and any vice one can imagine (right up to drugs) if they are
savvy enough to work 'the system'. What to us may seem harsh to us, to them is a life of leisure, in many ways preferable to life on the streets. In
contrast, the latter case can easily end in capture through the delay caused by an altercation, injury (which can result in hospital bill collections
which can be actually worse than jail time for many), or death. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the less the chance of
altercations with bystanders, the better chance the criminal attempt will succeed. It is also a fact that an armed bystander is much more likely to
intervene than one who is defenseless themselves.
I would think a campus would be one of the worst places for a shooting. A university campus is synonymous with CAMERAS and WITNESSES. Why not
wait for the dude to be right next to a police station and then gun him down.....
Cameras are not everywhere; there are plenty of blind spots. Witnesses that are required to be unarmed are also not going to want to get involved,
usually for fear of reprisal (they have to be in those gun-free zones too, you know). And believe it or not, crimes next door to a police station are
actually the ones which are the safest for the criminal, since most police are out on the road looking for those evil speeding tourists.