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reply posted on 26-10-2008 @ 11:35 PM by Illusionsaregrander
reply to post by Alucard Hellsing



Meditation. You need it.

And if you drink anything with caffeine or do any kind of stimulants, stop.

Your "mind" or Ego as the eastern traditions would call it is overrunning "You" the witnessing Consciousness.

Everyone has an Ego, it is merely a matter of what degree they identify with it. People in your situation are identified with it nearly completely.

It isnt something you have to live with. However, if you want it to change, you need to bring your focus from the future and the past into the present, where the Ego is naturally weak.

In the present, as Cancerian aptly points out, everything IS perfect.

And can only be perfect, because in the present there is no "future" where it could be "improved."

Anyway, long story, might be more than you care to hear, but if you really dont like living that way, there is a real solution to it. You dont need to buy books, or talk to a shrink, you just need to begin to bring your own attention into the moment and stop feeding your mind stimulants that help it race out of control. It will take a while, but it can be done, on your own. Start by simply watching your own mind race and just naming the type of thought, (judgment, worry, random thinking, etc.) until you get a firm sense of yourself as the watcher of your mind, rather than being your mind.


reply posted on 26-10-2008 @ 11:36 PM by Alucard Hellsing
reply to post by rikk7111



Sleep is a weird part in my life, it can sometimes take me 3 - 4 hours to fall asleep, and sometimes i just go into a semi sleep state where i am awake but my thoughts just keep going, sometimes i'll fall asleep in 20 minutes..

I dont have a set belief system, i think anything is possible.

My goal in life is to just be happy, to make enough money to live comfortably, to be healthy, and to work for myself..

Pretty normal in that respect i think.


My mind at times simply doesn't feel like my own...or like i am actually 2 people, i can discern between 2 entities in my life, which i feel is my body and my spirit, like my body and my mind are in a constant battle for control...

I sometimes feel like if my mind or spirit, soul, whatever u want to call it left my body, that my body would keep on living.


reply posted on 26-10-2008 @ 11:38 PM by Alucard Hellsing
reply to post by Illusionsaregrander



What you said there reminds me of a book i read called the power of now by eckhart tolle, does that sound familiar ?


reply posted on 26-10-2008 @ 11:43 PM by pluckynoonez
reply to post by Alucard Hellsing



I adore the text you produced.

I starred this thread. I flagged it. I sent you a U2U saying "i love you...I do." What else is there to say. Our thoughts on this issue are identical. My long-lost sibling...


reply posted on 27-10-2008 @ 12:02 AM by Dock6
reply to post by Illusionsaregrander





WOW !

What a truly impressive post !


Wish it could be stickied at the top of every thread and forum


Masterful -- profound -- generous -- priceless !


Thank you, sincerely ... hope millions read what you wrote


edited to add that ten minutes after posting this and moving onto something else (real life) I came back and searched for this thread again in order to read again Illusionsaregrander's initial post .. and in order I could copy and save it.

Who would have thought, after all these years, that I'd discover such profundity in ATS .. like a diamond in the grass.

As far as I can see, Illusionsaregrander's advice is all that's required. I'm stunned. It's the secret to life .. the 'cure' for so many people's problems

We've all read heavy books, deep in concentration, in order to gain a fraction of this wisdom

Yet Illusionsaregrander has put it in a nutshell .. no fanfare.

Best thing I've read for many, many a year

I'm going to pass on this advice to as many as possible .. in addition to taking this advice very much to heart

What a gift ! Thank you again, Illusionsaregrander

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reply posted on 27-10-2008 @ 01:05 AM by Dock6
reply to post by DrLove






The counting thing .. it's not intentional, not conscious. It happens while you're doing other things. It's going on in the back of your head .. like an embedded calculator or something.

Example: in the middle of doing something .. painting some lattice outdoors for instance. Hear the washing machine complete it's cycle. Dash inside and start removing clothing from the machine. At that very moment, the following might be occurring: you're looking at a smudge on the wall and make a mental note to remove it --- you remind yourself to remove items from the freezer so they'll have time to defrost by dinner time --- you're untangling items of clothing --- and all the time, in the background of these thoughts, there's the counting going on as you remove items from the washing machine: shirt (one) blouse (two) another shirt (three) -- and so on. It's on 'automatic count'. ?. You finally hear the counting and do a bit of a double-take. Say to yourself, 'Gee, what are you counting the clothes for .. what's the point ? ' Except it isn't the conscious 'you' who's been doing it in the first place.


reply posted on 31-10-2008 @ 03:24 AM by Isispriest
Sounds as though you are at a significant breakthrough point in your own PRD (Personal Research and Development).
The OCD angle is something to consider.
You may be particularly sensitive to EMFs. I see that you are in Melbourne, a potentially very urban environment. As a experiment I suggest that you try going camping for a couple weeks. Get away from cell phone reception and walls filled with electrically charged wires and see if that dramatically changes your mental state.
Meditation does work to calm the mind. It may take a lot of practice. But If you simply cannot sit still, you might try Ti Chi, Yoga, Martial Arts, or even some form of dance. Any of these things require some training and self discipline. This may be key for you. Any artist or professional has to get themselves through some basic training or schooling.
One of the first thing meditation teaches is, "You are not your thoughts. You are not your personality" You are a spark of consciousness, which can watch most of these thoughts come and go. You can be more discriminating as to which ones you wish to examine, nurture, or act on.
Having so much going on inside, suggests that you have difficulty attending to what you are sensing in the moment. A modest SNIP habit for awhile can help that. Certainly better for you than Seroquil or Welbutrin.

SNIP

Blah, blah, anyway I agree with R.D. Lang and Krishnamurti, who said "It's no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society".


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reply posted on 31-10-2008 @ 12:23 PM by detachedindividual
I have a mild form of OCD, and some things you've said sound familiar to me.

As a teen I would become stuck on words, think of how many letters there are, and find the middle. It served no purpose, there was no reason for it.
I'd also (and sometimes still do) see larger squares in the pavement and step over the middle one. So imagine a 3 x 3 square of 9 paving, I'd step in the first middle one, over the center paving, and into the third. I still find myself doing it now sometimes, but it's not very often.

I am also a perfectionist in a lot of ways. I'm an artist and a writer, and I find myself going over things so many times that it's hard to get things done and be happy with the result. I have learned over time to know when to stop, then either tie it off as a finished project or go back to it later.

The manic side comes out sometimes too, and I find myself right now with four uncompleted novels on my PC, six unfinished portraits and a couple of business ideas still in the planning. I find it hard to focus on one thing long enough to finish it.
It's not that I get bored, I just want to do everything. I know that if I could split myself into three people, life would be great!

One of my closest friends, one who I share all this with now and then, says that I am too sensitive to what's going on around me. She says I think too much.

The way I see it, we are all different. Put a label on whatever you like, but the fact that I counted letters or step over paving is a quirk. These things make us unique, and as long as they're not hurting they're fine to have without the labels or any associated medication.

And I do agree with other posters, belief systems are useful, as is meditation. Spirituality in one form or another focuses the mind, quietens the shouting. It does help me.
I would say try cutting down on your external stimulants for a while and see how that changes things. Turn off the music for a week, put down the video games, spend an hour here and there just sitting quietly; meditate.

I think it would help you.

And I also agree that you are extremely eloquent. Some people are naturally poetic, if you don't already write, I think you should.

Blessed be.
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