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Topic started on 26-10-2008 @ 11:00 PM by Karlhungis

www.nytimes.com...

John McCain isn’t boasting about a new endorsement, one of the very, very few he has received from overseas. It came a few days ago: “Al Qaeda will have to support McCain in the coming election,” read a commentary on a password-protected Islamist Web site that is closely linked to Al Qaeda and often disseminates the group’s propaganda.

Yet the endorsement of Mr. McCain by a Qaeda-affiliated Web site isn’t a surprise to security specialists. Richard Clarke, the former White House counterterrorism director, and Joseph Nye, the former chairman of the National Intelligence Council, have both suggested that Al Qaeda prefers Mr. McCain and might even try to use terror attacks in the coming days to tip the election to him.

“From their perspective, a continuation of Bush policies is best for recruiting,” said Professor Nye, adding that Mr. McCain is far more likely to continue those policies.

Yet more calls for a new terrorist attack to get McCain in office. It is kind of crazy when the likes of Richard Clarke and Joseph Nye are saying that they wouldn't be surprised if a terrorist attack happens. How about that for flaunting it in our faces? So now that they say how it would benefit Al Qaeda recruiting, they can't possibly be responsible for it right? Despite the fact that it would be much more beneficial for the McCain camp?

I really, truly hope that this is just talk and we get through this election relatively unscathed.

Edit: I butchered the EX tags.

[edit on 27-10-2008 by Karlhungis]

reply posted on 27-10-2008 @ 12:12 AM by themamayada

I heard that too. But I also heard that the Taliban, on the other hand, supported Obama.

reply posted on 27-10-2008 @ 12:18 AM by Jay-in-AR

I find this amusing.
If the government of the United States wants to keep something secret, they can do so. They are very, very good at it. A statement like this brings my mind AUTOMATICALLY to the rumor that Al Qaeda was, from the beginning, a CIA funded organization put into place as a patsy they can wage war with.

If that rumor is true, it is obvious that the CIA wants Obama to be in office. If THAT is the case, I distrust Obama all the more for it.

We have been torched over this entire fiasco and I don't trust ONE WORD of what is said about Al Qaeda, The Taliban or the CIA. This is a deliberate move and OUR interests are NEVER considered in these decisions. In fact, these decisions seem to be made AGAINST our interests.
I'll take this with a grain of salt until I see it in the propaganda machine (CNN, FOX)... At that point, I will campaign AGAINST Obama.

Probably too little too late, though.

reply posted on 27-10-2008 @ 01:49 AM by Karlhungis

reply to post by Jay-in-AR

I know what you are saying. I have a hard time trusting anything these days and articles like this only go to confirm my suspicions. This feels like double or triple reverse psychology. It is bordering on comical now and I could probably laugh about it if it weren't for the fact that lives really do hang in the balance here.

reply posted on 27-10-2008 @ 03:20 AM by The_Modulus

Meh, imo Al Q are such a hateful lot that they would rather have a US administration that they could likely continue to wage war against than to have peace. War and violence are sadly so entrenched in much of the Middle East that it's going to take a long, long time for the urge of war to subside...

reply posted on 27-10-2008 @ 08:00 AM by Marcus Calpurnius

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Well, once again you've been suckered by the left wing propaganda media. Tell me something Karlhungis, which AQ member claimed they endorse McCain? I ask, because the NYT is citing an internet post. Some guy posted this on the internet and they are claiming its AQ. I wonder how they confirmed that?

You realize thats like Fox News taking one of your posts on here and claiming you speak for a terrorist group?

reply posted on 27-10-2008 @ 09:37 AM by mybigunit

Originally posted by Marcus Calpurnius
reply to post by Karlhungis

Well, once again you've been suckered by the left wing propaganda media. Tell me something Karlhungis, which AQ member claimed they endorse McCain? I ask, because the NYT is citing an internet post. Some guy posted this on the internet and they are claiming its AQ. I wonder how they confirmed that?

You realize thats like Fox News taking one of your posts on here and claiming you speak for a terrorist group?

Lets see here is why Al Q likes Bush/McCain. They attack us on 9/11 and mess us up. In reprisal we attack Iraq and bankrupt our country. Yup Id say McCain would be a good choice if I were Al Q.

reply posted on 27-10-2008 @ 09:40 AM by RRconservative

That makes alot of sense! Endorse the candidate who will kill more of its members?

Al-Queda endorsed John Kerry in 2004 and saw that it did damage to his campaign. So this time they endorse McCain, hoping for the same effect. Just because they are Muslim doesn't mean they are stupid.

reply posted on 27-10-2008 @ 09:41 AM by SGSPatriot

Dont believe everything you hear. This could be, for all we know, Obamanauts using this possibly fake story in desperation to win.

It just osunds fishy anyways

reply posted on 27-10-2008 @ 09:48 AM by mythatsabigprobe

They're endorsing McCain because they know he won't conduct raids into Pakistan the way Obama has said he would. And because McCain WILL attack Iran because that's were he thinks Al Queda are..

reply posted on 27-10-2008 @ 09:51 AM by mythatsabigprobe

Originally posted by RRconservative
That makes alot of sense! Endorse the candidate who will kill more of its members?

They have far more members now than before 9/11. Thanks to Bush's invasion of Iraq, every formerly peaceful muslim under the age of 55 wants to join Al Queda.

reply posted on 27-10-2008 @ 01:07 PM by sos37

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reply posted on 27-10-2008 @ 01:10 PM by GamerGal

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But it's true. Well, actually, all of them, not just under 55. That's what happens when you invade and kill thousands of innocent civillians. You kill an 6 year old little girl, her family joins AQ. You do that 100,000 times and you have million new members to AQ. And if you invade Iran to slaughter more civillians like McCain has promised you'll only push more people to AQ.

reply posted on 27-10-2008 @ 01:14 PM by mybigunit

Originally posted by sos37

Boy is THAT a crock of $hit. Got any proof to back up that big turd of a claim? Yeah, didn't think so. Go troll somewhere else.

Yeah I have proof. The war in Iraq. Are you telling me that all the insurgents we killed over there were in Al Q before we invaded? Umm no. Then on top of it the more and more innocents we killed the more and more new members that signed up. Do you think its just America that gets pi$$ed when we are attacked?

reply posted on 27-10-2008 @ 02:11 PM by sos37

Originally posted by mybigunit

Originally posted by sos37

Boy is THAT a crock of $hit. Got any proof to back up that big turd of a claim? Yeah, didn't think so. Go troll somewhere else.

Yeah I have proof. The war in Iraq. Are you telling me that all the insurgents we killed over there were in Al Q before we invaded? Umm no. Then on top of it the more and more innocents we killed the more and more new members that signed up. Do you think its just America that gets pi$$ed when we are attacked?

They were insurgents - Sunni and Shiite insurgents when we went into Iraq. What makes you think that they are converted to Al Qaida and not Al Qaida having come in from the outlying regions into Iraq to do battle with U.S. and allied forces?

reply posted on 27-10-2008 @ 02:16 PM by sos37

Originally posted by GamerGal
reply to post by sos37

But it's true. Well, actually, all of them, not just under 55. That's what happens when you invade and kill thousands of innocent civillians. You kill an 6 year old little girl, her family joins AQ. You do that 100,000 times and you have million new members to AQ. And if you invade Iran to slaughter more civillians like McCain has promised you'll only push more people to AQ.

Okay so who is promising an invasion of Iran? This is the first I've heard of it as a campaign promise. I've heard Obama make the statement several times "Iran must not get the bomb". In fact, wasn't it Obama who said that Iran was "a grave threat" and that "No options were off the table" as far as Iran was concerned?

Source: digg.com...

You have just as much to worry about from Iran with an Obama presidency as you do with McCain, except you also have Biden's statement to contend with that Obama will be tested within the first six months of his administration. An Iranian strike on Israel is certainly possible, as is a strike from Pakistan on India or a Russian invasion of the Ukraine - just to see how Mr. "I'll meet them without pre-conditions" will handle it.

reply posted on 27-10-2008 @ 02:17 PM by Jay-in-AR

Al Qaeda recruitment is reportedly at an all time high because of the Bush policies. The argument is that McCain would be a continuation of those policies and that Al Qaeda would continue to receive new recruits daily. And as another poster said, this war has crippled our country economically. On that front, Al Qaeda is winning this war. Bin Laden so much as SAID in his first post 9-11 video tape that this scheme was a grand plan to bankrupt the United States.

Look around you, that is now a reality. What intrigues me more is the possibility that Al Qaeda is a patsy organization. Like Karl said, double reverse psychology. In any event, I don't want either of these blood sucking crooks in the White House, but that's just me.

reply posted on 27-10-2008 @ 02:30 PM by GamerGal

reply to post by sos37

One line. Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran.

reply posted on 27-10-2008 @ 02:46 PM by sos37

Originally posted by GamerGal
reply to post by sos37

One line. Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran.

That's the best you've got??? A joke that McCain was singing in the company of veterans?

McCain responded, and he didn't apologize.

YouTube Link

Like he said, "if you don't like what I said, too bad. You need to lighten up". His real policy on Iran is quite a bit different.

reply posted on 27-10-2008 @ 02:58 PM by mybigunit

Originally posted by sos37

They were insurgents - Sunni and Shiite insurgents when we went into Iraq. What makes you think that they are converted to Al Qaida and not Al Qaida having come in from the outlying regions into Iraq to do battle with U.S. and allied forces?

That isnt what we were told by Bush. We were told we were fighting the terrorists over there so we didnt have to fight them over here. Were these insurgents going to come over here and kill us or did they not have problems with us till we invaded their country? I happen to agree with you btw they were insurgents or as they call themselves freedom fighters. But Im sure plenty of people joined Al Q because of it also and we were told by Bush they were terrorists. So Iraq did not help our cause no it actually helped Al Q by bogging us down in a worthless war killing our men and draining our war chest.

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