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posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by JonInMichigan
I have a masters degree in engineering and work for the gov on secret projects, I am a witch, have an 158 IQ, yada yada… ok I don’t need to be in any clubs and notoriety for being part of the crack pots who believe whole-heartedly in alien abduction is not super high on my list!!!!!


You couldn't just keep it simple.I can see the IQ part, maybe the masters degree..I know the witch thing is some type of religion...but the secret government stuff. Come on you guys always embellish your story or add rhings after a point was made to counter another point. Like mystiq...I said that the greys were most likely a product of tv, literature or internet..then she conveniently adds a new element to her story claiming to have witnessed a grey when she was three in the garden at time she should have been watching litlle kiddy show and not paranormal shows/ or horror and couldn't possibly be reading this stuff or at a time internet was not arround or accessible to a child. All I have to say is that is a little too convenient..and as for the secret government projects...I feel that was added to make your story credible..but I have no proof your full of it.

[edit on 27-10-2008 by riggs2099]




posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 02:07 PM
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Misinterpreting them or not (who knows ? maybe in their planet , abducting people and doing cruel experiences is the same as saying "Hi , we love you!" right?) we are being treated as animals , so I don't see anything "positive" about it.

I don't think it would be hard for them to confuse us , they are better developed in the Mental Environment , that could give us a "peace like feeling" while they are #ing up with us.


If they wanted to treat us as equals , it would be easily doable. And if they were really peaceful they could come and talk in the open to people and teach us about life outside our own , perhaps even discuss some rules of engagement.

You can't compare this with the event in the past where people panicked , well of course they panicked "GUYS WE ARE BEING INVADED OMGZORZ!"
It really depends a lot on how the message is presented and in the true intentions of the visitors.

They CAN contact us , but they just contact who they want ... and that would be individuals in power positions.

Now if they were truly spiritualy and ethicaly advanced , they would keep away from us , we are literally apes to them , they would have to wait much more to even think about phisicaly contacting us. Sending messages would be the less harmful way to make contact imo.

Abductions are completely outrageous , I don't care if they are trying to save us from ourselves ... we never asked for help , we don't need help , we need to stand on our own feet.I am confident we can take care of ourselves.



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 02:32 PM
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I find it interesting that people here accuse skeptics of being close-minded. Is there no appreciation of the fact that - if you haven't had such an experience yourself - it's intensely difficult to believe such a thing is happening? Can you not empathise?

For what it's worth, the OP describes sleep paralysis, almost word for word. A recognised phenomenon. You are paralysed. You sense a frightening presence. You see a frightening presence. You experience a sensation of being touched and manhandled. These things happen. They have happened to me. They are not alien abductions. They might feel for all the world like one, but they're not. Once again: here.

And I believe some people here are betraying the OP by saying 'don't listen to the skeptics: monsters are definitely abducting you in the night', rather than saying 'it might be sleep paralysis; you don't have to live in fear'. I genuinely don't understand the motive. Don't you believe in sleep paralysis?

Without derailing this thread with other people's experiences, what is in the OP's post that strikes people as inexplicable? I can only see the issue of the flatmate and her boyfriend. I'm genuinely staggered that anyone thinks this proves 'alien abduction' is the likely scenario, but - again - I haven't been abducted by aliens. I've only felt like I have.



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 03:21 PM
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This website WILL help you. Do NOT just accept this as part of your life. The healing techniques on this website will stop this from happening given time and given your dedication to doing them everyday. a friend of mine has had abduction experiences all his life and these techniques have stoped them. The ETs still try to trick him into listening to them but he knows better now and sends them on their way. I do hope you will check this website out. it is not some bullcrap new agey stuff claiming to help. in fact most new agey material is directly from manevolent ET's themselves.

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There is a vast amount of info on this website that WILL help you. Much love to you on your journey.

Melissa



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 03:40 PM
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There have been so many reported abductions that it would make one hard to be a skeptic. I must, however, side with the voice of reason. I think the abduction story makes it easy to right the wrongs one has commited in his lifetime. Any failures in life can be blamed on alien abduction. The human mind uses the abduction story to end the pain of reflecting on one's past. The only way these abductions could have occured is outside our ideas of space and time. If aliens can operate in these realms there is no need to abduct us.



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by azurite
... it is not some bullcrap new agey stuff claiming to help.


Yes it is. It is the dictionary definition of that.

Jaluna - giving you the benefit of the doubt that you're not just hoaxing, please look at the sleep paralysis material. I think it might help you enormously. Millions of people suffer exactly the same, and there's comfort to be had in knowing something odd but harmless is happening to you, rather than these people who seem determined to have you believe it's monsters.



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 04:00 PM
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Deleted post myself. Decided it was off topic.


[edit on 27-10-2008 by JonInMichigan]



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 04:12 PM
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not disrespecting you but all the symptons you describe are the same as someone havin a bad time narcotics. i personally dont belive in in little green men visiting us ,not to say i think were alone in the universe , if some race is that clever and advanced what would they want with us



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 04:36 PM
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if some race is that clever and advanced what would they want with us?


This seems to be the most common and popular question ever.


What do you think the monkeys were saying before we started researching and doing lab experiments on them?



If these humans are so clever and advanced what would they want with us?lol



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 04:36 PM
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Originally posted by da pickles
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not disrespecting you but all the symptons you describe are the same as someone havin a bad time narcotics. i personally dont belive in in little green men visiting us ,not to say i think were alone in the universe , if some race is that clever and advanced what would they want with us


With all of our fancy iPods and Cheese in a pressurized can, what do we want with studying algae, or primitive civilizations?

Oh yeah, we always explain to the animals that we abduct, the experiments that we are doing.

You see, first we meet with the leader of the primates we’re studying. (sarcasm) THEN we fly in with our helicopters, shoot them with darts to put them to sleep, then take some blood, semen, etc. Put the tracker on them and let them go.

They wake up with a headache and a story of how they saw a bright light followed by strange creatures that look a little like them but not really and without explanation did all this weird stuff. They can’t remember most of it and have no proof. The other primates are very skeptical. I mean, what would they want with them? And secondly, they didn’t introduce themselves to Zaboo their leader. Come on, more advance civilization didn’t introduce themselves before performing experiments? And we do? Remarks like that show how arrogant we are as a race.

Please, just stop for a moment. Reverse the rolls, think about how we handle identical scientific studies, and think of how silly your remark really is.



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 04:39 PM
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Great minds think alike! You answered that remark the same as me! Very nice!



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 04:50 PM
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hahaha the Zaboo part cracked me up



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 05:03 PM
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Now if they were truly spiritually and ethically advanced , they would keep away from us , we are literally apes to them , they would have to wait much more to even think about physically contacting us. Sending messages would be the less harmful way to make contact imo.


That’s probably the way most apes feel about us but do we keep away from them or send them letters in the mail?


Abductions are completely outrageous , I don't care if they are trying to save us from ourselves ... we never asked for help , we don't need help , we need to stand on our own feet.I am confident we can take care of ourselves.


Monkeys and apes would tell us the same thing I‘m sure if they had an open line of communication.


“We never asked for contact, we don’t need humans, we can live on our own and survive in the jungle.


I hate to compare us to monkeys and apes but it’s probably close to the reality of it on how much more advanced, evolved and intelligent they are over us. Maybe a few hundred thousand more years and were close to some of them at least.

For the meantime, take your medicine like a good boy-- I mean good monkey.


Banana anyone?







[edit on 27-10-2008 by Malevolent_Aliens]



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 05:11 PM
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THEN we fly in with our helicopters, shoot them with darts to put them to sleep, then take some blood, semen, etc. Put the tracker on them and let them go.

They wake up with a headache and a story of how they saw a bright light followed by strange creatures that look a little like them but not really and without explanation did all this weird stuff. They can’t remember most of it and have no proof. The other primates are very skeptical. I mean, what would they want with them? And secondly, they didn’t introduce themselves to Zaboo their leader.


Hi Jon,

I liked your explanation much better!


Something for the skeptics to think about!






[edit on 28-10-2008 by Malevolent_Aliens]



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 05:22 PM
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I understand the monkey analogy and it is funny and all.

But I would rather use the English/Spanish/Portuguese conquistadors and Indian natives one.

The conquistadors being the aliens , the natives being us , and America would be our whole Planet.

Really , just the effort to come here to use us as lab rats for NO purpose , is not a very smart thing ... and I don't think they are stupid at all.

Just make the natives enslave themselves and then when the system is all set , we just use them as labor for whatever we might ever need here.



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 05:42 PM
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Really, just the effort to come here to use us as lab rats for NO purpose , is not a very smart thing ... and I don't think they are stupid at all.


I’m sure they are not using us like we do lab rats. There is a much different reason/purpose something we can’t yet fully grasp or understand that involves the eternal soul, DNA imprints and our evolution.


Just make the natives enslave themselves and then when the system is all set , we just use them as labor for whatever we might ever need here.


Perhaps your not far from the truth from a certain point of view!


I don’t believe this particular group of ET’s would have our best interest in mind with this type of scenario wouldn’t you think? Afterall it sounds like a well thought out humanized plan for control, power and profit to me.


Not all ET’s think and act on the same level and there are many-many-many of them, for the most part I believe the majority of them have our best interest at heart and respect the laws of nature and the universe. (Unlike us monkey humans
)---Freewill plays a big part and most of them understand the law of attraction well!










[edit on 27-10-2008 by Malevolent_Aliens]



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 06:06 PM
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Cleared the post myself. I decided it was off topic and this is too important of a topic to go off on a tangent defending myself.

[edit on 27-10-2008 by JonInMichigan]



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 06:13 PM
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One can only hope so.

From my point of view , the ones with our best interests wouldn't intervene at all.

Even if in their heads they think they are saving us. Imagine this scenario "bad" aliens A want to take Earth , "good" aliens B will fight them and "save us". "Good" aliens B win ! Hooray !

"Good" aliens B own us now ! And would probably have to protect us every time someone comes here , because we cannot do it ourselves. Can you see the burden ?

Advanced spiritualy aliens C think "If we save them , we own them , if we simply go there and try to make them into a client state , it won't serve to their best interests either. Therefore we'd better not physically contact them at all , maybe just give them a few tips of what life REALLY is like outside their planet , to take care about those many alien races intervening in their world and try to show what REALLY is going on in their home. Give them a few tips how to start to spiritually evolve perhaps etc."



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 06:15 PM
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Originally posted by Roufas
Really , just the effort to come here to use us as lab rats for NO purpose , is not a very smart thing ... and I don't think they are stupid at all.

Just make the natives enslave themselves and then when the system is all set , we just use them as labor for whatever we might ever need here.


Well I don't know why they do it. Coming here for lab rats could be a reason if we share a common gene pool. Maybe we are their experiment to begin with. Maybe they are the future us... I don't know. That's why I'm here, to try to figure it all out.

As far as enslavement... well, who's to say we aren't actually subversively enslaved by doing things driven by implanted programming. Also, did we enslave the natives? Do we generally enslave primitive cultures we study? Well... I guess yes, sometimes. But as we mature as a race we stopped doing that (the civilized world anyway) and are content with sitting back and studying. Why does anyone study anything? Who knows what the motives are? What we do know is they seem to be operating by the same rules under which we would operate. (At least in modern times. Look up 'cargo cults' to see why we don't do things the way we did 50 years ago when greeting primitive cultures.)



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 06:20 PM
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Originally posted by Roufas
just give them a few tips of what life REALLY is like outside their planet , to take care about those many alien races intervening in their world and try to show what REALLY is going on in their home. Give them a few tips how to start to spiritually evolve perhaps etc."


You mean like the 10 commandments, the Bible, etc. Profits to deliver the message like Mohammad, Moses, or Jesus?

That worked out well didn't it? We are fighting religous wars in the name of those 'tips'.

Perhaps Sodom and Gomorrah or the Great Flood were a better idea.

Except this time I think we will create our own demise (and sadly I'm probably assisting with that mission). Perhaps they will only provide the 'ark' this time.



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