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reply posted on 25-10-2008 @ 01:56 PM by andy1033
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Yep, i am sure most of us believe that one. Thx for going with that one, it might come under the mind control aspect of this all.



reply posted on 25-10-2008 @ 02:12 PM by spines
Nice thread. It will be interesting to do some reading when it fills up.

MK UKTRA -- I believe it, it has been proven. The government, at times covertly, used intense psychoactives on an unknowing, unwitting public for the purposes of Cold War, super spy type programs. Not only is it a great movie (Manchurian Candidate), but it is some eye-opening fact.

UFOs -- I believe two things on this one:

1) Some UFOs do not originate from our little biosphere of love and happiness. The powers that be know about them and keep the information surpressed because...I don't know, pick a reason.

2) Some UFOs do originate from our little biosphere of love and happiness. The powers that be know about them and keep the information surpressed because...I don't know, pick a reason.

Both are equally intriquing to me.

and then the big ones:

Ruby Ridge/Waco -- I believe that we were activley lied to, and continue to be lied to, about the actual happenings of each event. I believe that each event was a convienent means to an end and, at the very least, we are not told the truth because the truth wouldn't suit 'their' needs.

Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building Bombing/9-11 -- My beliefs on these are a bit hazy to myself at the moment. I am not fully prepared to believe that the attacks were soley orchestrated by the US government. Furthermore, I am prepared to believe that the government, in each case, is lying about parts of it in order to better suit their needs.

There we go, let's hope the thread can retain it's purpose and that people don't begin to feel the need to derail it.

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reply posted on 25-10-2008 @ 07:44 PM by psychedeliack
Reality is a conspiracy. More accurately, reality is a HOAX.

This may sound like fantasy, but this is exactly how I understand reality through direct experience with no embellishment whatsoever.

I believe that reality is a daydream in the mind of a supreme source. Created purely from an initial pattern just like a seed(as above so below), or image, reality or the big bang or whatever, works through evolution to inevitable reach a point where there would be particulars which could reflect the daydream or creation back unto its self.
I believe that the source hid keys all throughout the daydream so that the subjects who feel a sense of individuality would inevitably find them and be given a glimpse from the sources infinite perspectives, source perspective, as well as vision from all individual perspectives, so that the individual is left with more proof than they could ask for that their reality is just the daydream of the source. That they really are the source pretending to be individualized.
I believe that within the daydream there is something called free will, and free will has lead some of the individuals within the dream to attempt to control the others due to their lack of ultimate understanding, also due to them feeling trapped thus attempting to become the leaders or kings, claiming their bloodlines are the source. These individuals found some of these keys bud did not completely understand what they found due to their ignorance via greed/control, but noticed others seemed to understand what they were through their humbleness and failed attempts at swaying understandings that have them smiling in the face of fear.
Almost immediately these greedy lost individuals created infrastructures and laws to try and trick the others into not noticing or using the keys. Their tricks are seen for what they are, and source made sure the keys were readily available in many "forms" around the individuals.

I completely believe that DMT is the KEY to understanding this universal experience, and I completely believe that the fact that it is illegal is a conspiracy to hide the truth.

On one hand I find this rude, on the other hand, I find this quite considerate.
Rude because part of me wants everyone to understand,
Considerate because the other part of me understands that if everyone knew, the magic would disappear.
Sure we would all get along, but there would be no magic, only understanding, I believe it is the contrast between the two that makes the experience what it is at all.
Cherish every moment you have for what you think it is.
the whole situation kinda reminds me of this zen quote:
"before enlightenment, chop wood carry water; after enlightenment, chop wood carry water"

So I just smile and enjoy the ride, cause thats all it seems to be...
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