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Fed Judge Throws Out Berg v. Obama Lawsuit? Or did he?

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posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 02:57 PM
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Instead of simply putting the matter to rest, the DNC is blocking all access to this document that would make this a moot point and this Berg look ridiculous.


You are absolutely right, so WHY?WHY?WHY are they doing this? Did they really screw up this big? Or did they just think no one would notice? OR is it just part of the plan???

My brother lives in SW PA and this HAS been in the local papers up there. I knew there were questions about his birth certificate, but I didn't know about this till just recently. Has it gotten any airtime in MSM?




posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 03:00 PM
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I wonder if the video with Grandma Kenya stating that Obama was born in Kenya is enough proof for the apellate judge to continue on?



posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 03:02 PM
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Originally posted by ThatDGgirl
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Instead of simply putting the matter to rest, the DNC is blocking all access to this document that would make this a moot point and this Berg look ridiculous.

Has it gotten any airtime in MSM?

One Fox station in Toledo and Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage as far as I know.



posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 03:06 PM
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It didn't matter how this frivolous lawsuit went you'd either have pissed off Clinton supporters and Republicans dancing in the streets, or you'd have pissed off Clinton supporters and Republicans screaming that it's a police state and we don't have any rights anymore.



posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 03:11 PM
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It didn't matter how this frivolous lawsuit went you'd either have pissed off Clinton supporters and Republicans dancing in the streets, or you'd have pissed off Clinton supporters and Republicans screaming that it's a police state and we don't have any rights anymore.


HELLO!?!?

You guys keep proving my point! Unless this is completely swept under the carpet, there can be no happy ending!!! It is going to be chaotic!!!!



posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 03:18 PM
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If it was completely swept under the carpet pissed off Clinton supporters and Republicans would cry conspiracy. If Obama presented documents, like he did online and on FactCheck, they will cry conspiracy. If he came to their houses with the document in his hands so they could rub it all over their body they'd cry conspiracy.

You have to realize that the people that are following this case, and want Obama out, just want him out, they don't care how. They don't like him and they'll latch onto anything that has a glimmer of keeping him out.

It doesn't matter how anything goes, if it doesn't go in their favor they are going to come up with an excuse about how it's a conspiracy or wrong.

[edit on 25-10-2008 by davion]



posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 03:21 PM
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As in the past, the media will talk about this as the stock market crashes Monday. I have the court docment from the site above. Docjustic c or something like that. It clearly shows that he is not a native son, so He can not run and expect to be president. So while the market crashes , all they will talk about will be this court case, dragging it on and on. Just to emotional for most here.



posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by zman
As in the past, the media will talk about this as the stock market crashes Monday. I have the court docment from the site above. Docjustic c or something like that. It clearly shows that he is not a native son, so He can not run and expect to be president. So while the market crashes , all they will talk about will be this court case, dragging it on and on. Just to emotional for most here.



Whatever document you have isn't signed by the judge and was most likely issued by Berg.



posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 03:29 PM
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Agreed on all points. Which is why I say that this is all PART OF THE PLAN. We are caught between a rock and a hard place.

Once again, THEY have US fighting amongst ourselves. I don't give flying fig who wins because it's not going to matter. The AGENDA will remain the same.
These are simply my opinions. But I think they make GOOD sense in light of all the possible fall out scenarios.

Fasten your seatbelt. It's going to be a very bumpy ride.



posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 03:30 PM
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I have studied law for 15 years. It appears to me that the lawsuit is going forward. I have seen no evidence that the lawsuit was dismissed other then the reported news story.

There are no court cites listed for the latest findings that the suit was dismissed.

The PDF states that the Dems are ORDERED. That is not something that Berg filed. That comes from the court.

The PDF file is an Order from the court. Unless the judge reversed his own order, then I see this as an action that falls against Obama, not in his favor.

The Motion to Dismiss was thrown out. Obama lost that one too, previously.

The Summary Judgement is an action taken by the plaintiff to obtain a final ruling. This does not go to trial, the summary judgement is the FINAL WORD, if it is Granted, which it was.

It appears to me, that Obama is screwed.

It also apprears to me that the Webbot program and Half Past human could be on Target too. That predicted everyone in a state of utter confusion after the election.

Powell remarked about Jan. 22, and Biden warned that Obama would be tested, and that he would need unpopular support.

The Police are planning for civil unrest around the election time.

Looks like a Martial Law Rap Up to me.



posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by davion

Originally posted by zman
As in the past, the media will talk about this as the stock market crashes Monday. I have the court docment from the site above. Docjustic c or something like that. It clearly shows that he is not a native son, so He can not run and expect to be president. So while the market crashes , all they will talk about will be this court case, dragging it on and on. Just to emotional for most here.



Whatever document you have isn't signed by the judge and was most likely issued by Berg.


IMPOSSIBLE!!! This is not true. That is a court document regardless of the lack of signature. The signature would only appear on the Original , not the uploaded digital version.



posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 03:33 PM
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Originally posted by truthwarrior7
I have studied law for 15 years. It appears to me that the lawsuit is going forward. I have seen no evidence that the lawsuit was dismissed other then the reported news story.

There are no court cites listed for the latest findings that the suit was dismissed.

The PDF states that the Dems are ORDERED. That is not something that Berg filed. That comes from the court.

The PDF file is an Order from the court. Unless the judge reversed his own order, then I see this as an action that falls against Obama, not in his favor.

The Motion to Dismiss was thrown out. Obama lost that one too, previously.

The Summary Judgement is an action taken by the plaintiff to obtain a final ruling. This does not go to trial, the summary judgement is the FINAL WORD, if it is Granted, which it was.

It appears to me, that Obama is screwed.

It also apprears to me that the Webbot program and Half Past human could be on Target too. That predicted everyone in a state of utter confusion after the election.

Powell remarked about Jan. 22, and Biden warned that Obama would be tested, and that he would need unpopular support.

The Police are planning for civil unrest around the election time.

Looks like a Martial Law Rap Up to me.



I have studied law for 15 and a half years and I disagree. Isn't the internet fun?



posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 03:35 PM
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Thank you for your expertise in "legaleeze".



This is, unfortunately where I see it going too. Ironically, the Constitution is suspended under Martial Law. If it wasn't so twisted, it would be funny.

SIGH We just got fooled AGAIN.



posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 03:37 PM
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With the exception of wall st CEO's is there anyone in this country who are happy? They may be happy for fleeting moments, but let's face it we are a society living in fear. It's either the terrorists will get us, the economy will crash, the Illuminati/Bilderberg is out to get us, name the threat and someone from some angle is playing it non stop.

This election is no different. I'm not for either candidate, I think both are bad for this country simply because like many politicians they are bought and paid for and abide by a constituion that begins "We the corporations". I personally wouldn't have a problem if either person won on an election that was ran on the up and up.

As a poster said earlier even if a document is produced some will say it's legit, others will say it's a fake, you just can't win. With this lawsuit aside and McCain's born in Panama issue aside, if McCain wins then it's "Oh, Diebold rigged the votes with the help of the Galactic Federation of light" if Obama wins "Oh Acorn rigged the vote"

I think the current psyche of this country would make even Frasier and Niles Crain run from Psychiatry. No matter how we've gotten here, we're all at a crossroads as far as this country goes and I don't know how we can collectively make this any better as long as the fingerpointing and blame game is going on.



posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by davion
If it was completely swept under the carpet pissed off Clinton supporters and Republicans would cry conspiracy. If Obama presented documents, like he did online and on FactCheck, they will cry conspiracy. If he came to their houses with the document in his hands so they could rub it all over their body they'd cry conspiracy.

You have to realize that the people that are following this case, and want Obama out, just want him out, they don't care how. They don't like him and they'll latch onto anything that has a glimmer of keeping him out.

It doesn't matter how anything goes, if it doesn't go in their favor they are going to come up with an excuse about how it's a conspiracy or wrong.

[edit on 25-10-2008 by davion]


You have to realize that Obama supporters are so brainwashed that they could care less even if he wasn't born in the U.S. They are more loyal to him than they are the constitution. I am not a McCain or Obama supporter so I have no political reasons to try to get to the bottom of this, only constitutional ones. This is a constitutional crisis no matter what party you support (I would hope neither).

And I think that's a little extreme to say that people would still cry conspiracy even if he showed up at our houses with the document in hand. I know I would be convinced either way if I could hold a hard copy but I know that's never going to happen so this Berg lawsuit is the best chance we have to verify if a candidate that is running for the highest office in the country is eligible for that job. This is not a partisan issue!!

If he can produce a hard copy for those shills over at factcheck.org to tout around than why won't he produce one that is being requested by a court of law in this country. Hmm what's he hiding?



posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 03:48 PM
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Amazing how we have lawyers and law students and documents and links and yet still there is disagreement over what exactly happend? Why do you suppose that is? Why do you suppose that the very simple logical question that I keep asking will not get answered? I am betting it is because it makes sense and that apparently would take all the fun out of this lil game.



posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 03:54 PM
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Actually, this is not trueeither.

We are NOT under Martial Law currently.

I have court ruling that occured in the Middle 1800's at the time of the civil war, and during Martial Law under Lincoln. The courts ruled that Martial Law may only occur momentarily, not as a blanket Order. Martial Law may only occur at the location of the courthouse town where the courthouse is being burned down. Martial Law may only occur where no lawful government is possible. This is what the court ruled during lincoln's time. Martial Law can only exist where government is not able to carry out ordinary functions. If the town hall is blown up, then martial law occurs in that town, at the location of the situation, not throughout the whole country, or even the state, or even an entire city. (and another side point...it lasts only as long as until order has been restored and government can function again properly. )

If you want to disagree with me on this, then you had better look up the book, Act of State Under English Law published in 1906. Look up the chapter on Martial Law. If you have the ability , reproduce it here for all to see. It clearly states that Martial Law cannot be a blanket proclamation.


[edit on 25-10-2008 by truthwarrior7]

[edit on 25-10-2008 by truthwarrior7]



posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 03:55 PM
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I have studied law for 15 and a half years and I disagree. Isn't the internet fun?


Tiamanicus If you would be so gracious to do two things....

Please decode the "legaleeze" the way YOU read it.

And please, OH PLEASE, tell me you can see a way for all this to wind up NOT being chaotic.

No sarcasm, I ask sincerely.

Thanking you in advance...........



posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 03:59 PM
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posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 04:03 PM
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You know,Berg should just release all his "evidence"to the press.The tape recording of Obama's grandmother.The documentation of school records in Indonesia.Even the "evidence showing Obama used an Indonesian passport to travel to Pakistan.Let the public see the "evidence"and judge it for themselves.



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