Fed Judge Throws Out Berg v. Obama Lawsuit? Or did he?

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posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 01:28 PM
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I posted on another thread, that Obama knows he is screwed! And it is just a little too coincidental that he would have to return to Hawaii RIGHT NOW( of all times) to come up with some type of birth certificate because he and the DNC are panicking! This is just a the theory of course but in the light of things seems plausible!




posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 01:30 PM
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In the court documents, it was accepted by the court that the copies that were submitted by Obama attorneys were corrupted and altered. Read the filings. Page eight on the site below.

docs.justia.com...:2008cv04083/281573/27/



posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 01:33 PM
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Originally posted by paxnatus
I posted on another thread, that Obama knows he is screwed! And it is just a little too coincidental that he would have to return to Hawaii RIGHT NOW( of all times) to come up with some type of birth certificate because he and the DNC are panicking! This is just a the theory of course but in the light of things seems plausible!


This is where it is going to get real suspensful. If he produces a birth certificate that is not identical to the one submitted to the court, he's screwed. If the document is not of the same grade paper and ink and type of that era... he's still screwed. I am beginning to wonder if even Barack himself was even aware that he was not a natural born citizen of the US and he went to Hawaii to find it out for himself once and for all.



posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 01:36 PM
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Originally posted by paxnatus
I posted on another thread, that Obama knows he is screwed! And it is just a little too coincidental that he would have to return to Hawaii RIGHT NOW( of all times) to come up with some type of birth certificate because he and the DNC are panicking! This is just a the theory of course but in the light of things seems plausible!


Suppose he poisoned his grandma too?



posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 01:43 PM
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Funny, I just went to the link that "from above" posted and there is nothing there. Now this does not look good at all! Articles and documents disappearing
from public.



posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 01:45 PM
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Nope ! I think he went to ask Grandma a question. She was sopposedly on her "death bed", yet he only spent a few hours by her side...Hmm..



posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 01:45 PM
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It is my belief that those that are afraid of riots are those that are not well armed. As for me, go ahead and riot, riot away, riot all day long, but be careful whose vecinity you riot near.



posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 01:48 PM
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Devy Kidd has reported that Mr Berg has said that the judge rulled against him but he isn't done yet.He has stated that he has a tape of Obama's granny speaking w/another person stating that he was born in Kenya and that she was there w/his other granny when he was born.He plans to relese the tape in the next two days.The granny who is sooooo sick was released from the hospital last week w/a broken hip.It has been reported that Obama spent a whopping seven hours visiting granny and was seen all over town in a group of black suv's and a limo.



posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 01:48 PM
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Originally posted by paxnatus
Funny, I just went to the link that "from above" posted and there is nothing there. Now this does not look good at all! Articles and documents disappearing
from public.


I'm sorry, it is from Justia.com See if this one will work. Anyway, it's on page 8 of the Motion for Summery Judgement.

docs.justia.com...:2008cv04083/281573/27/



posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by schrodingers dog
Alright.

Are you ready for a poop storm.

Here is the pdf of the judges decision.

He has ruled AGAINST Obama and the DnC

justia.com




[edit on 10/25/2008 by schrodingers dog]



This was the web site I used to reference the document from. Look on page 8.



posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 01:50 PM
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Originally posted by paxnatus
Funny, I just went to the link that "from above" posted and there is nothing there. Now this does not look good at all! Articles and documents disappearing
from public.


Yes, because she mis-posted the link. Here is the corrected link to Berg's document.

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Surrick has apparently thrown the case out per America's Right which is maintained by a law student who works at the court. Incidentally this site was very much looking to ruling in favor of the Plaintiff.

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The order and memorandum came down at approximately 6:15 p.m. on Friday. Philip Berg's lawsuit challenging Illinois Sen. Barack Obama's constitutional eligibility to serve as president of the United States had been dismissed by the Hon. R. Barclay Surrick on grounds that the Philadelphia attorney and former Deputy Attorney General for the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania lacked standing.

Surrick, it seemed, was not satisfied with the nature of evidence provided by Berg to support his allegations.

Various accounts, details and ambiguities from Obama’s childhood form the basis of Plaintiff’s allegation that Obama is not a natural born citizen of the United States. To support his contention, Plaintiff cites sources as varied as the Rainbow Edition News Letter … and the television news tabloid Inside Edition. These sources and others lead Plaintiff to conclude that Obama is either a citizen of his father’s native Kenya, by birth there or through operation of U.S. law; or that Obama became a citizen of Indonesia by relinquishing his prior citizenship (American or Kenyan) when he moved there with his mother in 1967. Either way, in Plaintiff’s opinion, Obama does not have the requisite qualifications for the Presidency that the Natural Born Citizen Clause mandates. The Amended Complaint alleges that Obama has actively covered up this information and that the other named Defendants are complicit in Obama’s cover-up.

A judge’s attitude toward the factual foundation of a plaintiff’s claims is an essential factor in understanding just who indeed has standing to sue. The question running to the heart of the standing doctrine is whether or not the plaintiff indeed has a personal stake in the outcome of the otherwise justiciable matter being adjudicated. As has been discussed before many times here at America’s Right, a plaintiff wishing to have standing to sue must show (1) a particularized injury-in-fact, (2) evidence showing that that the party being sued actually caused the plaintiff’s particularized injury-in-fact, and (3) that adjudication of the matter would actually provide redress.


[edit on 25-10-2008 by round_eyed_dog]



posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 01:51 PM
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The american people need to wake up! It takes more than popularity to be a president. These times we are in demand a president that can handle stressful conditions. Besides that ......the constitution spells out the rules clearly. Obama doesn't meet the requirement. No the real question is:
Why is the media and the ptb protecting him. Why didn't Hillary question this........there is a BIG scam going on here......more like take down the U.S. from the inside out......Welcome to the United Socialist States of America...U.S.S.A Here we go......

I am considering a move but that would be running......we need to take a stand. Would the real americans please stand up!

I am sick of the lies that are OBAMA and the media that keeps loving him.
Don't they realize that when a dictator like obama takes over even the precious medias freedom will be taken away......WAKE UP AMERICA



posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 01:59 PM
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all of you are some sad sad people ......

just state whatever your real reason is for disliking him instead of making up reasons or excuses

a choice between him or mccain is like night and day i dont care if he's from gd zimbabwe clicking it up with the tribe

if i had to take a guess i would say 3/4 of this thread are avid mccain supporters , keep looking guys ..... dig up that dirt !




posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 02:01 PM
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Originally posted by Tiamanicus

Originally posted by paxnatus
I posted on another thread, that Obama knows he is screwed! And it is just a little too coincidental that he would have to return to Hawaii RIGHT NOW( of all times) to come up with some type of birth certificate because he and the DNC are panicking! This is just a the theory of course but in the light of things seems plausible!


Suppose he poisoned his grandma too?


Yeah, didn't take it long to go there did it? Of course not! I am not saying he did anything to his grandmother, And I meant no disrespect to his grandmother.Who knows? do you have proof that his grandmother is sick? Nor do I have proof she's not. That is not the issue, the issue is he was ordered to produce his vault birth certificate and since he said he was born in Hawaii makes since he would need to go there to retrieve the document or grease some palms whichever the case may be.



posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 02:03 PM
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As I stated, it will now move at light speed to the US Supreme Court. It will be carried there by a special writ that allows for such a procedure when there is an apparent national or Constitutional crisis unfolding and the Court is needed to decide on behalf of all the people. On Monday it will go to the Court of appeals. If rejected, to the Supreme Court. If accepted, it will be appealed to the Supreme Court. But it is on the way now to the Supreme Court by Friday.



posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 02:04 PM
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So what options are left for Berg?
Can he appeal?



posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 02:05 PM
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OK! Whatever you people need to cling to your delusions. I am still waiting for someone to explain to me why none of the other presidential candidates with their MILLIONS of dollars to spend on ads noone will see or hear or read have not pursued this even a little? Are all the Republicans in on this too?



posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 02:06 PM
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One more thing, apparently new evidence in the form of a video tape of Grandma in Kenya is going to be added. And it will be played on TV anyway no matter what, so that will change a lot of peoples minds about Obama. I would not vote for any person even suspected of not being a natural born US citizen.



posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 02:09 PM
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Even if this isn't settled before the election it will be settled after and then Obama will be impeached. My question is, will Biden take over?



posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 02:11 PM
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It had nothing to do with "evidence" having a lack of standing. Yes, the evidence was mostly circumstantial. But it had to do with the laws on the book basically saying that a voter has no standing in the courts to question a candidates eligibility. And it's not so much that the laws say voters DON'T have standing, it is more that there are no laws that state voters DO have standing.

Which is, frankly, hosed. But that's the way things stand so far





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