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reply posted on 12-12-2008 @ 05:47 PM by Gregarious

I have a lot more time to research and read on here, and I guess it is not your fault, but you don't know what you are talking about. What was given to the public is a short form, and it is available to anyone born anywhere, and does not prove they were born in the US. But I guess that does not really matter if we have a POTUS who is an illegal alien, because the entire government is very corrupt. Like has been said, 'the US government is the most corrupt in the world, with the exception of all the rest.' It doesn't really matter if we have a communist as a POTUS, or a Socialist, or a Facist. Nothing we can do about it but arm ourselves and quietly prepare for the impending 'firestsorm'. I really don't want to get into pissyfit fights with anyone on here, I am here to discuss and to learn. If my 'opponents' refuse to learn, but only want to name-call, and I respond, I am responsible in that I am responding. I am no expert on these matters, but I at least have learned a little. Maybe you should do some study before you denigrate yourself. I am now rather disgusted.

reply posted on 13-12-2008 @ 12:28 PM by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by Gregarious
I have a lot more time to research and read on here,

It's too bad that you missed the facts when reading and researching here...

What was given to the public is a short form, and it is available to anyone born anywhere, and does not prove they were born in the US.

That statement is NOT TRUE. Get that? FALSE! WRONG. Making an ignorant statement does not make it true. I suggest you provide sources for your statements... I mean since you have so much time to read and research, then SURELY, you have sources... Like this:

The Health Department of Hawaii

If there is no standard birth certificate on file, an applicant is required to submit documentary evidence of the birth facts necessary to support of the registration of the late certificate of birth. If approved, the late birth certificate will be registered in place of the Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, which must then be surrendered to the Department of Health. (...)

If the amendment request is subsequently withdrawn, all documents received in support of the amendment will be returned. If the requestor elects to proceed with the application for registration of a late certificate of birth, the documentary evidence submitted in support of registration will be reviewed and evaluated for adequacy.

In other words, for a person to get the short form you're talking about, they have to submit DOCUMENTATION that PROVES they were born in Hawaii or they don't get a Hawaiian birth certificate stating so. It will state they were born in the Virgin Islands, Florida or Kenya...

Like has been said, 'the US government is the most corrupt in the world, with the exception of all the rest.'

I am no expert on these matters,

Clearly. But you could do yourself a favor by posting your sources.

reply posted on 13-12-2008 @ 01:28 PM by redhatty

Wrotnowski's case was not on Friday's orders. A SCOTUS clerk told Cort his decision wouldn’t be released until Monday. This was at approximately 11:00 AM while the Justices were still behind closed doors.

Considering how Donofrio's went, this case (#2 at SCOTUS) will probably be denied also.

ETA: A thoughtful article on the issue, both sides of the argument may benefit from reading it

[edit on 12/13/08 by redhatty]

reply posted on 13-12-2008 @ 04:37 PM by Gregarious

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic

You know, if I did miss the facts, and info I read on here was fabricated, I most certainly apologize for believeing heresay. However, I read links to Hawaii government, and I had reason to believe they were authoritative, and they stated there is a possibility of incorrect info. What they did show was NOT the bc, but a short version without some crucial info. If BHusseinO was at all interested in Chicago-style politics, he would refuse to show us his full bc. That is what he has done, rather than show it and avoid paying the half million in attorney fees. And if his friend the gov of Illinois is also innocent, I apologize for believing the tape recordings, and I apologize for believing the payforplay charge on his white hating wife getting a lucrative job that she is unqualified for. Hey, after all the payforplay stuff going on from the Clintons, to him, it is politically correct now to be a dishonest crook, if you are running for office. I guess that I should just accept that and live with it. There are no honest politics anymore, if in fact there ever were. I apologize for pointing out lies and prevarications, on both sides, as I am still learnin that it is ok to lie sometimes. I still have a hard time with Vince Foster, tho. And the sale to our worst enemies of computer guidance tech for money, I think that act by Hillary will be seen as the ultimate treason in history, after we get nuked. Not speaking as a Communist Democrat, or a Socialist Republican, but as a citizen who understands that we are no longer represented, but enslaved without many of us understanding it.

reply posted on 12-1-2010 @ 04:57 PM by Gregarious

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic

Sorry about the late reply, I just found your bile. What I am talking about is NOT what you say it is. THAT form is for a certificate of a HAWAIIAN birth, not otherwise registered. That is NOT what he used to promote his fraud. Get real. If you are going to play the deception and misleading game, I suggest you go to law school.