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My questions are
1. According to Occam’s Razor, citing the lack of any physical evidence, shouldn’t the eyewitness reports than be dismissed as simply either lies or misinterpretations?
2. How can you explain the Chupacabra’s apparent rapid advancement in less than twenty years? It has gone from a small island nation to having sightings throughout the world?
Additionally, where were these Chupacabras the entire time before their sudden arrival onto the scene in cryptozoology? There is no evidence of a destroyed genetics lab or animal center in the wake of a hurricane, and the extreme unlikelihood of these creatures being the pets of extraterrestrials would indicate that these are naturally originating animals or figments of our imagination. Are we to believe an animal that matches the description of the Puerto Rican chupacabra would not escape both local legend and a flurry of European explorers seeking the fame of its capture?
An answer to my opponents questions on Occam’s Razor. Occam’s Razor states that an explanation make as few assumptions as possible. For instance, if you go out drinking at a bar and walk home, if you wake up with a bruised and scraped knee, which requires more assumptions, that you fell in your drunken stupor or that you were abducted by aliens? It works the same way with the chupacabra. Either everyone ha s seen a creature totally new to science, which may or may not be an experiment of the government or extraterrestrial pet, or that people are simply lying to get on TV or mistaken. Which makes more assumptions?
So, if nothing out of the ordinary was happening, and I got a good look at the animal, yes I believe I would be able to identity it without hesitation.
Hundreds of calls claiming sightings were phoned in. Know what 95% of those calls turned out to be? People misidentifying common animals such as raccoons for the bearcats.
Even though the physical description of the Chupacabra varies among eyewitnesses, what has been dubbed as "the hallmark" of this beast is its style of attack. The carcasses of its victims are left intact, except for one thing--the puncture wound.
The most disturbing fact in these attacks is the purpose of the wound. The wound is the way the beast sucks all the blood out of the animal.
Witnesses have described a dark brown beast, four and a half feet long, with a face like a cat, claws like a dog, and teeth like a vampire.
An adult cougar can range in length from 42 to 54 inches, with a 3-foot-long tail. Adult males weigh up to 200 pounds, and adult females up to 120 pounds.
Like all members of the cat family, cougars have five digits on the forepaw and four on the hindpaw. Each digit is equipped with a claw, which the cougar sheathes while walking, but which it uses with deadly effectiveness when grasping its prey.
First, Occam’s Razor can be used to determine any number of possible answers, not just one or another. It does not matter if there are two explanations or one billion, Occam’s Razor applies to every case. The answer that makes the fewest assumptions and highest probability is best.
FSBA opened up well, citing the fact that the ‘apex predator’ has been thoroughly imposed upon and driven from its’ natural environment. ADB never really counters this in her opening; though she does give an accurate account of the uphill battle she faces in establishing that there is indeed an existence of the Chupacabra.
ADB makes a relevant mistake in her Second Round answer to FSBA’s Socratic question from round one.
Indeed, the apparent spread of the Chupacabra throughout the Americas and even to Europe and Asia is impossible to explain – it simply has to have traveled through the airwaves and cables of television and Internet.
It is unclear as to whether or not this comment is slightly sarcastic or a direct admission that worldwide sightings are a result of the impressionable nature of some people who have encountered the topic through a global medium.
ADB finally seems to show up in the Third Round, after undue attention to the Ockham’s Razor principle brought up by FSBA. Her presentation of eyewitness accounts and the cougar incident successfully shows that eyewitness account can be trusted, which went completely unanswered by FSBA. This was the crucial point of the debate for this judge.
Overall, it should be noted that this debate was an almost impossible premise for that of the con position. There was also an undue amount of attention placed on Ockham’s Razor by both Fighters. FSBA was a bit short in several of his posts and while he was concise and to the point, lost many oppurtunities to ‘put this away’. In the end, I was left feeling that ADB did a better job at ‘convincing me’ of a position that I was dead set against at the beginning and am currently still skeptical of.
ADB is the winner by a very slim margin.
This was a good debate; both fighters deserve recognition for their efforts and applause for giving the readers something to really chew on. I have to say it was a close one and was difficult for me to judge this based on the testimony that was presented.
Both fighters presented their cases well. americandingbat lost some points initially for allowing his 24 hour extension to pass without reply.
FSBlueApocalypse did well in this debate to present his side of the argument that Chupacabra does not exist. The plausible reasoning of Ockham’s razor gave this fighter the edge (sorry bout the pun)
In the end though I have to say that FSBlueApocalypse won this debate, but just barely.
Judgement Americandingbat vs. FSBlueApocalypse
If judgement of debates were soley based on the evidence provided FSBlueApocalypse might have taken the lead. But debates are also judged according to references, examples, personal accounts, logic and rhetoric. FSBlue started with a strong and honest post opening but then relied too much on Occams Razor to handle everything. He continued to do so after Americandingbat showed how applying Occams Razor to witness accounts of the Chupacabra will not be enough. FSBlue also continued devaluating eyewitness accounts.
Ameringcandingbat did a thourough job of presenting the many different theories on the origins of the Chupacabra, which made for an interesting read and did indeed force the reader to ask: “What is it about this beast? Is it real?”
As someone who did not have the slightest belief in and much less interest in the topic I will say that this debate managed to spark my interest. Because of that americandingbat is the winner.