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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Is the OP forgetting to mention the massive population reduction goals?
I wonder why he isn't highlighting that aspect of the agenda......
Please forgive the intrusion, I just wanted to throw this into the mix. Remove the implied religious features, and I think this covers it. If someone offered me a one way ticket back to the garden I would have to pass. If it was a round trip ticket, look out world its time to rock and role.
Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by 1nt3rp0l
sure if you dont value freedom everything you said is true. You could argue it is like being a slave, everything you NEED to live will be provided but everything you want will be denied. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!
Originally posted by 1nt3rp0l
It's people like you that forget they can change the T.V channel when they don't like what's on.
Originally posted by 1nt3rp0l
...this is comming whether you,I, or anyone else wants it to. To see the beneficial points and (if you are opposed) find a way to make it easier to swallow is a transition needed until it proves worthy, or revolution sets in.
Originally posted by SolarSeaman
The formation of such ruling elite over peoples with the attempt at a middling utopian society will kill off just about everyone in it when applied the globe. My opinion is that forming and enforcing a NWO is an action that specifically states that all nations are failures and all peoples are not more than slaves.
Originally posted by badmedia
Oh look, it's the zeitgeist agenda.
I was immediately skeptical for a couple of reasons. First, just like I wouldn't buy a car from someplace called "Honest Jack's Car Emporium" I immediately distrust any movie that claims "everything you know is a lie, UNTIL NOW."
Zeitgeist (a german phrase that means “the spirit of the age”) is the name of an online movie that is making quite an unfortunate impact on thousands of undiscerning, history-starved young people around the world. This poorly done, historically inaccurate documentary (for lack of a better word to describe an often times blurry, pixelated film) produced by a man named “Peter J” seeks to persuade its viewers that the authors of the New Testament borrowed the idea of Jesus’ virgin birth, disciples, miracles, crucifixion, and resurrection from ancient pagan mystery religions that were around long before the time of Christ. The video even goes so far as to claim that Jesus Himself never even existed.
Below are some helpful quotes, articles and books that offer a scholarly refutation of many of the errors in the first part of the movie.
Charlie Campbell says, “Many of the charges put forth in Zeitgeist are based on outdated, disproved ideas that were in circulation at the beginning of the last century. Here is one example. Zeitgeist states that Attis (a Roman deity) was crucified, dead for three days and then resurrected. This is absolutely not true to the mythological account. In the mythological story, Attis was unfaithful to his goddess lover, and in a jealous rage she made him insane. In that insanity, Attis castrated himself and fled into the forest, where he bled to death. As J. Gresham Machen points out, “The myth contains no account of a resurrection;
Dr. Norman Geisler writes, “The first real parallel of a dying and rising god does not appear until A.D. 150, more than a hundred years after the origin of Christianity. So if there was any influence of one on the other, it was the influence of the historical event of the New Testament [resurrection] on mythology, not the reverse. The only known account of a god surviving death that predates Christianity is the Egyptian cult god Osiris.
Given the ubiquity of email solicitations for the scam, the Urban Legend Zeitgeist recommends just deleting the scam emails if you haven't lost anything rather than passing them onto law enforcement authorities.
Originally posted by badmedia
You see yourself as separate from god, and for that reason you do not, and will not be able to understand. If you should ever happen to know and understand that connection with god, then will see and understand the statement - I am god, and I am arguing with myself. Or as Jesus put it(John 14:20) - At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
"What! then you are Ethan Brand himself?" cried the lime-burner, in amazement. "I am a newcomer here, as you say, and they call it eighteen years since you left the foot of Gray-lock. But, I can tell you, the good folks still talk about Ethan Brand, in the village yonder, and what a strange errand took him away from his lime-kiln. Well, and so you have found the Unpardonable Sin?"
"Even so!" said the stranger, calmly.
"If the question is a fair one," proceeded Bartram, "where might it be?"
Ethan Brand laid his finger on his own heart.
"Here!" replied he.
And then, without mirth in his countenance, but as if moved by an involuntary recognition of the infinite absurdity of seeking throughout the world for what was the closest of all things to himself, and looking into every heart, save his own, for what was hidden in no other breast, he broke into a laugh of scorn.
"I have looked, said he, "into many a human heart that was seven times hotter with sinful passions than yonder furnace is with fire. But I found not there what I sought. No, not the Unpardonable Sin!"
"What is the Unpardonable Sin?" asked the lime-burner; and then he shrank further from his companion, trembling lest his question should be answered.
"It is a sin that grew within my own breast," replied Ethan Brand, standing erect, with a pride that distinguishes all enthusiasts of his stamp. "A sin that grew nowhere else! The sin of an intellect that triumphed over the sense of brotherhood with man and reverence for God, and sacrificed everything to its own mighty claims! The only sin that deserves a recompense of immortal agony! Freely, were it to do again, would I incur the guilt. Unshrinkingly I accept the retribution!"
"They tell me you have been all over the earth," said he, wringing his hands with earnestness. "You must have seen my daughter, for she makes a grand figure in the world, and everybody goes to see her. Did she send any word to her old father, or say when she was coming back?"
Ethan Brand's eye quailed beneath the old man's. That daughter, from whom he so earnestly desired a word of greeting, was the Esther of our tale, the very girl whom, with such cold and remorseless purpose, Ethan Brand had made the subject of a psychological experiment, and wasted, absorbed, and perhaps annihilated her soul, in the process.
He remembered with what tenderness, with what love and sympathy for mankind, and what pity for human guilt and woe, he had first begun to contemplate those ideas which afterwards became the inspiration of his life; with what reverence he had then looked into the heart of man, viewing it as a temple originally divine, and, however desecrated, still to be held sacred by a brother; with what awful fear he had deprecated the success of his pursuit, and prayed that the Unpardonable Sin might never be revealed to him. Then ensued that vast intellectual development, which, in its progress, disturbed the counterpoise between his mind and heart. The Idea that possessed his life had operated as a means of education; it had gone on cultivating his powers to the highest point of which they were susceptible; it had raised him from the level of an unlettered laborer to stand on a star-lit eminence, whither the philosophers of the earth, laden with the lore of universities, might vainly strive to clamber after him. So much for the intellect! But where was the heart? That, indeed, had withered--had contracted--had hardened--had perished! It had ceased to partake of the universal throb. He had lost his hold of the magnetic chain of humanity. He was no longer a brother-man, opening the chambers or the dungeons of our common nature by the key of holy sympathy, which gave him a right to share in all its secrets; he was now a cold observer, looking on mankind as the subject of his experiment, and, at length, converting man and woman to be his puppets, and pulling the wires that moved them to such degrees of crime as were demanded for his study.
Thus Ethan Brand became a fiend. He began to be so from the moment that his moral nature had ceased to keep the pace of improvement with his intellect. And now, as his highest effort and inevitable development--as the bright and gorgeous flower, and rich, delicious fruit of his life's labor--he had produced the Unpardonable Sin!
Originally posted by MatrixProphet
I for one, do not want equalization!!! It dulls the creative mind and stops the creative process. We are not all equal! Individuation is crucial to maintain variety, and prevent a cloning situation.
Originally posted by Haiku
While I cannot 100% agree, I must say, you have some very interesting Ideals. Some, that if given to the right hands, could be revolutionary on a global scale.