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Obama To Lead Fourth Reich?

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posted on Oct, 24 2008 @ 05:42 PM
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I saw this on realJewNews.com


"BARACK OBAMA’S STUDIED APPROACH to his media-informed 2008 presidential campaign has given him a leading edge over the plain and pale John McCain.

Particularly disturbing is Obama’s use of children in his media campaign in which Obama draws upon Hitleresque imagery. On October 2 2008, News Busters presented an Obama media ad which featured a group of children dressed in paramilitary uniforms ritualistically shouting out their praise for Obama. View Entire Story Here.

This use of children by Obama’s campaign staff, in a methodology reminiscent of ‘Hitler’s Youth,’ was a follow-up to a previous media ad which showed children chanting a tribute to Obama with fists high in the air, shouting out, “Obama, Obama!” View Entire Story Here.

Obama is indeed utilizing Hitler’s Youth program to create a “youthful” enthusiasm for his presidential bid. But not only this, the ad showing children dressed in paramilitary uniforms is a propagandizing “suggestive method” to prepare American youth for Obama’s compulsory ‘home service.’

OBAMA & HIS ‘HITLER’S YOUTH’ AGENDA

BY A PROCESS OF GRADUALISM, Barack Obama will establish a ‘home service’ contingent made up of 14 to 24 year old American children patterned after ‘Hitler’s Youth.’

Do not be fooled by Obama’s call for “voluntary service.” Obama’s youth programs will be compulsory as stated within the text of his Web Site outline.

Obama plans on beginning with a program entitled, Green Job Corps, an energy-focused youth program, which will demand a mandatory & compulsory “50 hours of community service a year” for junior high and high school students — and “100 hours per year” for college students. Obama, the fascist puppet of his enablers, David Rockefeller & Zbigniew Brzezinksi, will thus bring our American youth under complete state control.

Following this “gradualism,” of what appears on the surface as an innocuous “energy-focused” youth program, Obama plans on establishing a mandatory paramilitary youth program which he dubs, The Ameri Corps. In this program, Obama will demand that American youth from ages 14 to 24 “serve” the needs of “defending America” as an adjunct to the US military.

Is it any wonder then that Obama is presenting himself as a Hitleresque role model for his coming fascist state? Voters beware"

Heres a video that shows the Obama Youth




posted on Oct, 24 2008 @ 06:05 PM
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Hey, do you want to fix the link for us
It will be very kind of you if you do.
But yes. i notice how obama shockingly assembles Hitler many ways.



posted on Oct, 24 2008 @ 06:16 PM
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youtube
I believe that this is the link you're looking for.
I don't know what to think anymore, it seems everyday some other Obama story comes out trying to equate Obama to some nefarious source. I give up on both candidates.



posted on Oct, 24 2008 @ 06:58 PM
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So now he's a fascist?

I thought he was a socialist?


You guys need to make your minds up...


The most notable characteristic of a fascist country is the separation and persecution or denial of equality to a specific segment of the population based upon superficial qualities or belief systems.

Source


Central to the meaning of socialism is common ownership. This means the resources of the world being owned in common by the entire global population.

source

Forming a youth movement is not a sign of fascism just because the Nazis did it. The Nazis did many things, like developing rocket and jet engines, we don't consider jet planes fascist...

A government can do things that benefit society as a whole without being socialist, or fascist...


I think what you really want your government to be is egocentric, so you can continue in the same way and feel comfortable with it.



posted on Oct, 24 2008 @ 07:06 PM
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OK.

Let's see if we can salvage something useful out of this thread and learn something tangible.

Everyone knows that the Nazis were the Third Reich ... right?

So...

Who were the first two?

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posted on Oct, 24 2008 @ 07:06 PM
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Frankly I find certain 'right-wing' elements, with their divisive and jingoist rhetoric, more 'Hitler-esque' than the Obama campaign.

I do find broad, non-partisan indication of 'Gobbeles-esque' behaviour from politicians, partisans, and the media alike in this election season.

Imho, this thread is garbage. It's false-partisanship obscures any valid points it might make, and that's a shame, because there may be valid points to be made. It essentially, and I believe deliberately, invites non-productive divisiveness and polarized close-mindedness.



posted on Oct, 24 2008 @ 07:07 PM
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Okay I'm just guessing from memory here, but weren't they 1) The Roman Empire, and 2) The Holy Roman Empire?



posted on Oct, 24 2008 @ 07:14 PM
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Ummm... Duh?


reply to post by Ian McLean
 


So "Reich" refers to empires originating in Italy?




disclaimer: weird mood brought on by too much wine
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posted on Oct, 24 2008 @ 07:16 PM
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Has anybody read "Rise of the Fourth Reich" by Jim Marrs that can shed some light on this thread?



posted on Oct, 24 2008 @ 07:17 PM
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1st The Holy Roman Empire

2nd The unification period of Germany after the Franco-Prussian war.



posted on Oct, 24 2008 @ 07:19 PM
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Originally posted by Gools
So "Reich" refers to empires originating in Italy?





Heh... I actually looked up the term 'reich', it's a generic "used most to designate an empire, realm, or nation." But yes, my first answer doesn't quite make sense, does it, especially considering the history of Germanic people and the Roman Empire.


The second reich was the German state that was dissolved in WWI, apparently.

Enjoy the wine.



posted on Oct, 24 2008 @ 07:34 PM
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So the term "Reich" is not specific to Germany nor is it specific to "empires"? Otherwise the Ottoman empire might have been called a "Reich"?

Thanks to both of you for the info.


Meh... I always wondered what the big deal was about the third "Reich" and where they got that term.
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posted on Oct, 24 2008 @ 07:50 PM
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Well, i actually met someone who claims that Obama is a socialist...and that Nazis (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei) were "socialists"...so apparently, since universal health care and "spreading" the wealth are socialist points of view, anyone that agrees with said points is a "nazi"...needless to say i almost punched him in the face for being such a moron.

So because Obama wants to create a youth group which would pretty much be an extender to such programs like the Peace Corps or the junior ROTC and that's considered "fascist", what about the young Republicans? Surely such indoctrination wouldn't you say? Or how about those Jesus camps? So when it's actually indoctrination of your "values" it's 100% ok, but when your political opponent hints at a volunteer program he's Hitler reborn. Unbefreakinglievable.



posted on Oct, 24 2008 @ 07:52 PM
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I have one question for who posted this, have you ever been to a college that has black fraternities or know anything about pledging ? I do believe that Obama is actually in one himself not drastically different than a traditionally white fraternity in its overall goals and purpose, anyhow, all this looks like are line brothers pledging to be in a junior fraternity.

For the uninformed this has been going on forever, on college campuses all across America, and also junior and auxillary fraternities at high schools, they build discipline, brotherhood and prepare youth for the challenges of college, completing studies and being successful, nothing more to see or twist into something built on the racist thread title, these sir in many instances do become the future leaders both in academic and other important professions after being mentored and assisted by their elder brothers.





[edit on 24-10-2008 by phinubian]



posted on Oct, 24 2008 @ 08:03 PM
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So now he's a fascist?

I thought he was a socialist?


Yes, and no.
There is an excellent paper on the similarities and differences between socialism and fascism. I suggest everyone read it, and see if you can see which, if any of the two, your country falls into. By the way, after reading the paper, you will see why your answer does not matter:
www.lawrence.edu...



posted on Oct, 24 2008 @ 11:26 PM
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Yeah I was being sarcastic. I know the difference, and I know Obama is neither fascist or socialist.

Unfortunately it seems most people don't.



posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 12:06 AM
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Originally posted by Daedalus24
reply to post by ANOK
 


Well, i actually met someone who claims that Obama is a socialist...and that Nazis (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei) were "socialists"...so apparently, since universal health care and "spreading" the wealth are socialist points of view, anyone that agrees with said points is a "nazi"...needless to say i almost punched him in the face for being such a moron.

So because Obama wants to create a youth group which would pretty much be an extender to such programs like the Peace Corps or the junior ROTC and that's considered "fascist", what about the young Republicans? Surely such indoctrination wouldn't you say? Or how about those Jesus camps? So when it's actually indoctrination of your "values" it's 100% ok, but when your political opponent hints at a volunteer program he's Hitler reborn. Unbefreakinglievable.


i think it would be safer to say that they are concerned about the intent of the obama movement being provoked. ya know in light of all the "conspiracies" we here, especially at this site.

and this is not directed toward obama. thats an illusion. like the other thread says, its the 545 people. in other words its from both sides. and of course im blaintly hinting at illuminati n the PTB

peace



posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 12:15 AM
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I think I got it. Obama is a Commie-Nazi.


Commie-Nazism, being the confused mess that it is, is hard to pinpoint exactly, but it is argued that the de-facto inception began with Joseph Stalin, who installed a plan to mobilize the workers to defend the motherland from Anglo-Israeli mongrels. In time he helped in destroying subversive Jewish elements such as Leon Trotsky and his liberal ilk, such as bastard son Lyndon LaRouche (who is himself confused for being a National Bolshevist simply because simply becayse he believes in Henry C. Carey). Meanwhile, Francis Parker Yockey (the Anti-LaRouche and second-greatest man to ever live) decided one day to become a Nazi after being molested by Fr. Coughlen. However, after a few more years of thinking about it during his travels in Europe, had decided that Communism was not so bad, but rather quite preferable.


Obama is also one of the mortal enemies of McBane.
McBane destroyed the evil Commie Nazis in one of his movies.
Sorted.



posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 08:05 PM
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I know it was 'Just' your IYHO that this thread was "garbage". But this thread was created to start a discussion to see what others on ATS think about this article.



posted on Oct, 25 2008 @ 08:15 PM
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Barack Obama will establish a ‘home service’ contingent made up of 14 to 24 year old American children patterned after ‘Hitler’s Youth.’ Do not be fooled by Obama’s call for “voluntary service.” Obama’s youth programs will be compulsory as stated within the text of his Web Site outline. Obama plans on beginning with a program entitled, Green Job Corps, an energy-focused youth program, which will demand a mandatory & compulsory “50 hours of community service a year” for junior high and high school students — and “100 hours per year” for college students. Obama, the fascist puppet of his enablers, David Rockefeller & Zbigniew Brzezinksi, will thus bring our American youth under complete state control. Following this “gradualism,” of what appears on the surface as an innocuous “energy-focused” youth program, Obama plans on establishing a mandatory paramilitary youth program which he dubs, The Ameri Corps. In this program, Obama will demand that American youth from ages 14 to 24 “serve” the needs of “defending America” as an adjunct to the US military


Sounds like the hitler youth to me. I think its wrong that the Government 'mandates' anything like that. 100hrs of service? Whats next? Mandating a donation of 10 hrs of pay out of your 40work hr work week to some "greater cause"? Unbelievable! We barley have enough hours to work to pay cost of living and he wants us to donate??



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