Originally posted by Tiamanicus
How many mods does ATS have?
The list of Mods is on the lefthand side of the Main Page of this forum.
Do you think that mods outnumber gov agents asigned to ATS? Because as was stated above, they double punish people for one offense,
It is not uncommon to multiple staff members to be online at any one time. Thus it is also not uncommon for multiple staff members to be concurrently
reviewing the same Complaint or otherwise. Double-hits, from my experience here, are firstly initiated from an Alert from an ATS Member...that
Alert/Complaint becomes visible to Staff - ALL staff who are currently online - currently there is no facility for Staff Members reviewing/responding
to any Complaint/Alert to be aware that other Staff Members are also doing the same. Perhaps there should be, but at present that isn't the case.
I can also tell you that unless the Alert/Complaint is quite glaringly obvious Staff DO tend in the majority of instances (I won't say every single
instance, as ultimately we are human and so subject to the inevitable fallibility of being such) to review the context in which the Alerted reply is
That takes time. At which time a Staff Member may decide upon review that it does in fact require some form of actions - be it a Warn, a deletion or
otherwise. So...there is also a chance - and has been shown in the past - that by the time a Staff Member arrives at the decision and clicks on
'Warn' or 'Delete' or otherwise another Staff Member has *beaten them to the punch* as it were...and so a 'double-whammy' results.
When this happens the person receiving the double-hit can of course request - as the greater majority have done in the past - to have that action
reviewed, to alert staff they were double penalised unjustly.
Or alternatively the Action Logs which are visible to Staff also indicate the double-hit. At that point the decision is predominately reversed, the
person is creditted back the extra point loss etc.
So....essentially...you making such a blanket statement is not based upon the wider reality.
they remove posts without actually reading the thread or the context. They deal with most problems by simply banning your ISP.
As mentioned above - that is false. You may well THINK it to be the case...but as someone who actually DOES it, and has done for some 8 years of ATS
existance, having read through the multiple replies of Staff Members in relation to Alerted replies/threads PRIOR to any action being taken I can tell
you that you are wrong.
Banning someone is not a 'Default Answer' at all. There is predominately much input/discussion had with Staff/ATS members in question before the
Hammer gets dropped.
There are obvious clear-cut examples of expedient banning however - outright threats of violence, extremely obscene posts, abuse etc...spamming and
However I will say this: Often people who get banned just don't 'get it'...they almost see it as their God given right to act like right pricks, to
abuse people and berate people. Its called courtesy...something that isn't a whole lot to ask yet surprisingly something somewhat foriegn to a
As usual there are claims of innocense, of Nazi-Mods, of silencing of free-speech ad infinitum.
How about - just a suggest of course - how about those Members actually start pointing their finger of accusation inward
. How about they
actually ACT like adults and take some responsibility for their actions. How about they show some basic courtesy and NOT treat ATS and its Members as
their own little cat-toys to bat around, to have their fun with, to vomit their vile mutterings at and then act all indignant when someone tells them
to cut it out.
How about that? Or is that just toooo much to ask for some people? Must be.
So if all these mods cannot even watch this place properly, what are the chances the government is spending any money giving it a go?
...Granted, we Staff are by no means perfect. We certainly make our mistakes. I'd like to think those mistakes are geniunely a rarity. Going again
from actually being privy to how much Staff action is taken on a daily basis, the context thereof and the processes followed I also know Staff try
their best. Yes bad days happen - show me ONE person who doesn't experience bad days.
But for you to say that Staff can't even watch this place properly
Might I suggest possibly cutting some slack and gaining some actual factual insight into Staff processes before engaging ones mouth (or keyboard as
the case may be) and making such claims.
[edit on 25-10-2008 by alien]