Palin Revisited - Calling All Previous Palin Apologists!

I think it is incredibly strange how so many conservatives and Mccain shouted the Ayers thing from the rooftops, yet not one of them realizes or wants to realize the fact that our government now is run by terrorists. I think those people need to look up the definition of terrorist. They have used fear to coerce the American people into being apathetic again and again in my lifetime, and its amazing that so few people talk about it.

I also think its funny that whenever I see Republicans on tv talking about the election and someone makes a point against Mccain, all they can do is shout back something about Obama. A previous poster made the point, and it is something I have noticed again and again. Its crazy that the actual issues that are destroying this country are being forsaken for discussions about Palins wardrobe or Obamas friends. (personally I do find it pretty dumb that so much money was spent on the outfits of a self proclaimed "hockey mom" with our economy in the toilet, but thats another thread entirely.)

Originally posted by quetzalcoatl13
I also think its funny that whenever I see Republicans on tv talking about the election and someone makes a point against Mccain, all they can do is shout back something about Obama. A previous poster made the point, and it is something I have noticed again and again.

You are absolutely right, quetzalcoatl13! Obama's surrogates are just as guilty of this, but haven't done it as much because their argument, consistently, has been "Well, that's not true... Here's why... And we really should be discussing this economy and what we're going to do to fix it." The Obama message has been much clearer and more direct.

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Originally posted by quetzalcoatl13
I think it is incredibly strange how so many conservatives and Mccain shouted the Ayers thing from the rooftops, yet not one of them realizes or wants to realize the fact that our government now is run by terrorists.

So, in your view, it's OK to replace what you call a "terrorist gov't" with a socialist gov't that has worked hand-in-hand with terrorists?

(personally I do find it pretty dumb that so much money was spent on the outfits of a self proclaimed "hockey mom" with our economy in the toilet, but thats another thread entirely.)

Do you really think the same benefits are not given to Obama and Biden?

I have heard that Palin is drawing larger crowds than Mccain, even today. So i am guessing none of this slandering is really affecting those on the ground.

But it is good fodder for the left I suppose.

So, in your view, it's OK to replace what you call a "terrorist gov't" with a socialist gov't that has worked hand-in-hand with terrorists?

Whether you want to accept it or not, our government has many facets of Socialism already. We have a lot of negative pieces, such as the bailout that nationalized the debt and our failing medicare and medicaid systems, but no positive parts. I keep hearing people say Obama works with terrorists referring to Ayers, but I don't hear conservatives talk about Mccain working with Bush (who is without doubt a terrorist.) I don't know Ayers personally, but from what I hear about him he commited or attempted to commit terrorist acts some time ago. Bush is still in office using terror to this day. So many people in the U.S. have been told to fear socialism, its being thrown around as a fear inducing word as often as communist and terrorist are, but they fail to realize that socialism can work very well. There are plenty of countries that make it work.

Do you really think the same benefits are not given to Obama and Biden?

I am sure that they are. However, the point is that I don't hear Obama ranting and raving about being just like "Joe six-pack" every day. He did actually grow up having to get food stamps and struggling with money, yet doesnt try to throw it in our faces. Biden talks up his roots often enough, but he doesn't pretend to be an every-man while wearing clothes that cost more than most families make in a year.

I find it funny that in your reply to my valid statements about Palin you are doing exactly what I just said conservatives often do, which is throwing back "Well Obama does this too" instead of bringing up a valid point that would present a concrete sense of reasoning. By the way, as I said before, I don't really like either of these two candidates. You are replying under the assumption that I am attacking Palin's modus operandi because I want to make her look bad so Obama looks good. Palin makes herself look bad anyway. And even though I don't really like either candidate or their VP's, I still realize that Obama would be a far better choice than Mccain.

Originally posted by PowerSlave
I have heard that Palin is drawing larger crowds than Mccain, even today. So i am guessing none of this slandering is really affecting those on the ground.

But it is good fodder for the left I suppose.

You know who else draws a good crowd? Aerosmith. That doesn't mean I want Steven Tyler running my country. Whether it affects "people on the ground" who are generally hardcore Republicans who would vote for Michael Jackson if their precious leaders told them to is not the point. The point is, left right center or whatever you prefer to label yourself as, you should notice that Palin is a joke. By the way, its not called slander if it's true.

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You forgot that J-O-B-S, according to Biden, is a 3 letter word!

Follow-up To One Of My Previous Posts...

As I predicted, folks... Today, Monday, 10/27/2008, news outlets are reporting today that there is additional "Mavericky" or as it's being put today "Rogue" behavior by the GOP Veep Nominee.

Addressing THIS as well as the premise of the original post, I'll repeat my call...

Where are all of the people that supported the Palin pick before knowing anything about her?!?! Why can't previous supporters just say "Look, I supported the pick because it was all the GOP could do to have even a microscopic chance of being competitive. It wasn't that she was the best possible pick for the country; she was the best possible pick for the campaign."

Just say it!! You'll feel better!!

She's dropping the McCain ticket, folks! A week before it's over, and she's now running for 2012.

So, how do the Repubs feel about this? If it were my party, I'd be pissed.

[edit on 27-10-2008 by tommy_boy]

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We can play the "gaffee" game all day long, with any politician, including Reagan. And let's not get started on the current President, President George "King of the Foot In the Mouth" Bush.

The question is: Was Palin a good pick in retrospect, knowing what we know now? If you thought so, do you still agree with that position given how partisan that same support for the GOP Veep pick had to have been, being that we knew nothing about her?