Originally posted by ZeroGhost
Out of what? You cannot prove it is not true either. We have the same dilemma.

Out of the junk that you are immersed in.

Prove a negative. Go ahead. I'm waiting.

People believe the Earth is flat. It's round. In proving the positive, the negative has also been proven because it has been revealed for what it is.

Prove there is no proof. You cant do that either.

Prove there is no proof of what? Of what you are providing?

This is a physical existence, we deal with material objects, not subjective faiths when we begin to prove. You have provided no proof, you are lost in the fanciful conviction of your own deluded mind.

To add more, I watch as you cling to the empty ideas of others and mentions grays, pladeins etc in your posts. You probably don't know where these star systems are nor how many planets are in them, if any.

Until you do, you're in the same category as the speculative flat Earthers, the blossom goodchilds, the grays, the prophet yahwehs, and sooooooo on.

You are playing a game you do not understand the rules and have no idea how to articulate other than to say Prove it?

This isn't a game, it's reality.

You have no idea how well articulated I am, but in this instance all that needs to be asked is a simple "prove it., because all you're doing is repeating the same garbage that fails time after time. You're a follower.

Be specific. Prove what? Everything?

Sure. Thinking happy thoughts doesn't make the world and everyone in it a happy place. Just you.

You want me to prove aliens exist or you will will not believe anyone talking about aliens? OK, I can deal with that.

I don't believe people simply to believe people. People must prove their selves to me, you have no proof as a person, therefore I believe nothing that you say.

I can not EVER say that I have EVER seen an extra-terrestrial craft or had direct visual and/or verified communication with extra-terrestrials because I have NEVER, EVER been to another planet nor have I EVER seen a PHYSICAL sentient intelligent entity other than a Human Being, and fellow ATS member, neither have you.

Just because you're interested in E.T. existence and you see something flashing in the sky does NOT mean it is extra-terrestrial.

This is as bad as the religious believing in miracles and the Earth as the center of the universe before real objective science came along.

I guess you are not convinced, so that's OK. That shows you are fairly intelligent and will need more data and an experience. I can't give you that so you need go somewhere else.

ZG

Thank you providing me with the proof I need, that you don't have any, and since I'm intelligent I'll just ruin your Jesus party. Enjoy sitting high and mighty as you rake in the gullible minds to believe in your nescient trash and delirious self deluded convictions buried in ignorance.

Enjoy your thread, shark, but the minnows will soon become smart enough to avoid you.

I can feel the energy presence of UFOs. Usually in the early morning… and it wakes me up! I toss and turn.

It started about 1 ½ years ago (or at least when I noticed it). When one night at about 4:30AM I heard my 5 year old’s toys going. He has a loud Hot Wheels toy that cranks and pops. I clearly heard it along with many other toys. Now… I thought that was very odd because, first he hardly ever plays in his room, second he gets spooked (he can see ghosts and they are usually between 1-2AM- that’s a whole other topic) so he usually cries out for me, and doesn’t get up and to play. I got up and went to his room only to find everything quiet and he was sound asleep. I thought ..”Oh it’s just ghost activity” and I went to bed.

The next morning my older son who is 16 said “I think we had activity last night.” I asked why and he told me that he thought he woke his brother up (he stays up very late playing video games in his room next to his brother’s room) because he heard him playing with his toys but, when he checked on him he was asleep and all his toys were off. He also noticed it was very bright outside but, didn’t pay that much attention. That was around 2:30AM.

I told my psychic friend and she said that she forgot to tell me that she had seen a couple of UFOS at her house, with the bright lights and everything. She said they told her (she says it’s like a sentence just popping in your head) “First of many” and “Aurora” and something about “minerals” -- This was April of ’07 …..Well, in Feb. ’08 Aurora, Texas had a heyday of UFO sightings.. remember!

Anyway…. She threw me a left curve ball as I wasn’t expecting that answer. I remember feeling the energy in my house that night and I have since then on several occasions. I also told my other friend who lives in the same neighborhood and she has a young son the same age. She told me that she too heard her son’s toys going off and went to check and he was asleep and it was quiet. She then noticed a bright light outside and then it was gone. She thought it was the street light going out.. but, when she looked the light was still on. That was around 4-5AM too.

About once a month I feel this energy and I toss and turn. It drives me a little nuts. If I drag out of bed to look out the window I don’t see anything.

Originally posted by tsloan
I don't know what to make of this....In a sense this is just thought power process that theropist use in dealing with emotional damaged people. I see where your hard science direction using the spec. of light, that kinda sparked my interest as applied science to a visual sense in using light filters that could distort what our minds see through our tuned vision. I think you kinda might be on to something from that science stand point, but as for the thought direction.... I think it's more playing on anyone who wants to see E.B.E's so bad their mind will manifest that image or thought..???..

Well, if you´re of the mindset that contact is impossible, this would indeed seem like "sporting with peoples desires". The mindset here though is: It is not only possible but even a birthright.

A birthright denied to us by the authoritarian powers who either say

a) "Doesnt exist"

or

b) "Its evil"

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I forgot to mention that my truck's clock lost time. It's done it several times since!

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