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reply posted on 23-10-2008 @ 10:11 PM by Skyfloating
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Originally posted by undo
part of the problem appears to be terminology. another part, focus. and the other, lack of info on the subject of where the ET(s) in the encounter,
derive from and what their intent may or may not be. according to my interpretation of the ancient and not so ancient texts, some of them come from
right here. in which case, you may not be talking to an ET but a T. if it's a T, beware. if it's an ET, check your sources. are they behaving
amicably? is the data they give you, borne out by evidence or if prophetical and set to occur within your lifetime, does it actually happen (see
nancy leider's planet X fiasco and blossom goodchild's october 14th no show, both of which were channelled from "ETs") ? if the prophecy
doesn't come to pass, cut off contact immediately, as the contact is something less than friendly.
I agree that we may have to re-think the term "extraterrestrial" to include a more broad understanding of alien lifeforms. I know some that do
reside on other planets, but not all of them do. Some of them are right here...but unseen by the majority.
And yes...I also think the prophetic "worship us" type aliens are connected more to delusion and deception than to real contact.
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reply posted on 23-10-2008 @ 10:14 PM by Skyfloating
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Originally posted by antar
Sky,
One thing to add, when you are focusing on the release in the begining and when the mind begins to loose control and thoughts come racing in, in a
relaxed state with eyes closed, focus on the incoming and outgoing breath, this will help.
Also you should place a disclaimer on the podcast for what you are offering is a technique which is not for mentally unstable people. This technique
is geared more towards people who have walked the path and are ready for direction to the next level.
When you do this in a group setting the results will be amplified. It is best done with equal numbers of males and females, all lying in supine,
making a large circle with their bodies, feet making the inner circle and heads making the outer part of the circle. Close yet not touching so as to
break the individuals energy circut.
I am willing to become part of your experiment. Yet it is always when I give up that they appear to me. When I finally have distance from the last
experience.
Looking forward to your audio guided meditation.
The Disclaimer is a good idea and very necessary. In order to meet them "on the level" one has to be healthy, confident, and easily able to discern
between self-delusion and real-experience.
I like the group-exercise thing. That certainly amplifies it.
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reply posted on 23-10-2008 @ 10:17 PM by Skyfloating
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Originally posted by Spiramirabilis
Skyfloating, I have a question -
why a white star on a black background?
this is significant to me - meaningful - and I'm just wondering how you came to pick this as a focal point - wondering if it's more than just a
focal point or if it symbolizes something specific?
In the Meditation I use it as a focal point, but practitioners could use anything else as well.
Secondary meaning 1: We associate stars with extraterrestrial life.
Secondary meaning 2: Some associate it with "home"
Secondary meaning 3: As a symbol it would seem that it is more representative of the "most high" (Supreme Being, Source) than lets say...a candle or
an image of some deity or something.
Secondary meaning 4: ______________________ (fill in the blank)
Whats your idea on the white star?
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reply posted on 23-10-2008 @ 10:21 PM by Skyfloating
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Originally posted by Zepherian
All my "otherworldly" experiences, and I've had a few because I have, I guess, seeked them out, have been benign and told me there is nothing
for a pure heart to be afraid of.
I strongly agree with your idea that those in power do not want us to take initiative.
In UFOlogy many have become consumers rather than participants and creators. They wait for the answers to come from "out there" and become needy of
"help" from outside agents.
The field of science-fiction and UFOlogy has been rife with fear-programming. Some of this fear-programming will re-surface when re-thinking personal
alien contact.
One problem is that Hollywood thinks scripts that contain no totally evil and deranged enemy, are boring. Unfortunately, there is some truth to the
idea that a script without that could be boring...
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reply posted on 23-10-2008 @ 10:24 PM by Skyfloating
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Originally posted by Deson
OK, I'll be giving this a shot when I can but I have a question before I do so. Is it needed to say these words or feelings aloud? Or will a
heartfelt speaking it to yourself suffice? You know, thinking it?
I share a bay with a number of individuals and I'd rather not have them hear me. I have a strange enough reputation and I'd rather not
suddenly find myself in a "heart to heart" talk with my case-manager.
No. Its not necessary to speak them out loud. And its not even necessary to use exactly those words. Wholehearted Sincerity and a sense of
respect and intent are what this phase of the Meditation are about. If you find another way to get into that vibe, go ahead.
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reply posted on 23-10-2008 @ 10:25 PM by Skyfloating
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Who is David Sereda? Link please?
I havent been reading in UFOlogy for a long time now.
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reply posted on 23-10-2008 @ 10:28 PM by Skyfloating
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Originally posted by philjwolf
I have one question.. what do you think blossom goodchild did wrong???? she really believed she was communicating with her alien friend.
My personal opinion is that that has more to do with a viral marketing campaign than with serious UFOlogy and ET-Contact.
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reply posted on 23-10-2008 @ 10:33 PM by Skyfloating
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reply to post by pjslug
My opinion on this is that there is no lack of physical evidence. But the people who are not "tuned in" (which is most of the people), cannot
perceive, come by, notice, receive, witness any such physical evidence.
We are conditioned to only take that which is physically touchable as "real". I think this is nonsense and that less-dense-energies are more real
than physical matter. Nevertheless, since we think that physical objects constitute proof, it would be a bit of a shock to the human experience to
actually come upon such evidence. Its not part of the game-plan.
Nevertheless...it is possible to get such evidence...but not on a mass-published scale (yet)...but only in private.
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reply posted on 23-10-2008 @ 10:35 PM by Skyfloating
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Originally posted by Mason mike
Dude,
If you are for real, this will be real cool. I will let you know in a few days.
thanks,
Mike
If you treat your personal ET Contact with some respect, beyond the quick-satisfaction we´ve come to expect in "normal" society...then give it a
few weeks and months, not a few days.
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reply posted on 23-10-2008 @ 10:37 PM by Skyfloating
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Originally posted by easynow
how come everybody that does this is in contact with a different Alien ?
Life in the universe is diverse. However, there are many who share the "gray alien" experience for example.
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reply posted on 23-10-2008 @ 10:48 PM by undo
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reply to post by Skyfloating
i don't think the term worship is correctly translated.
i think it means "work". civilization doesn't thrive without work.
work must be done to uphold the foundation of the civilization and
those you work for are your masters. if they withdraw your wages,
you are gonna have one heckuva time surviving, especially if those
wages are things like food, water and shelter.
it's all relative to translation and slant.
whatever spin is put on it, is how it will appear to the reader. even in a socialistic society, there are folks in charge, and everybody else does
the labor. same same. that's what civilization is all about.
the dividing line between slavery and work is very very thin.
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reply posted on 23-10-2008 @ 11:07 PM by TheRandom1
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reply to post by Skyfloating
Um, you do know that you could possibly be inviting a demon in right?
You could also be communicating with something that is not an alien, whatever it is you contact, if it is evil, then it will try (and most likely
succeed) to fool you into thinking that it is something good and the thing you are looking for, even if you do not believe in demons, think about it,
what if you're wrong? What is it that you are allowing to interact with you on such an intimate level? A level that you might not even share with
your closest friend or loved one?
you are inviting a complete stranger into your inner most being, this my friend is very dangerous.
Whatever you decide to do, use caution.
-Lahara
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reply posted on 23-10-2008 @ 11:24 PM by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
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I have another idea to add. If we want E.T. contact we should get on our high horses, build our own craft and go there.
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reply posted on 24-10-2008 @ 12:03 AM by Anonymous ATS
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Hi I've been looking at these forums for a while and decided to post now.
about a month or two ago I had an "experience" late at night which started while I was sleeping.
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Thats my bed and the two slits are my door, which is on the right.
This is the best description of what I remember.
The light from my hallway were on. I was looking at my door while lying in my bed. I saw the door handle turn and the door begin to open. I
immediately felt terrified and looked the otherway (looked to the left, away from the door). I felt the presence of several beings, but I was too
terrified to look.
I just kept looking to the left, even as they were in the room and standing over me. My blanket was pulled up so my chest was exposed. I was still
looking away. One of them put their hands on my chest. Felt coldish and just started moving it. It felt like it wanted me to see it.
As it did this my body felt paralysed. I couldn't move even though I stressed my mind to move. I caught a glimse of one as it put its head over me
while its hands were on my chest. It was like a grey alien but its head was smaller and more squarish. Same build as a human probably like 5ft
something. There were at least three in my room. They didn't smell.
I was able to use my left arm but at an impaired condition. I flailed it around trying to push them away, while the hands were on my chest and while I
was looking the other way still. I felt my hand brush across faces or bodies.
I woke up wondering whether it was real, scared #less. I did not move for 10 mins before I had the courage to look around my room. Did not sleep for
the rest of the night.
I was able to rationalise it as a dream to myself because they came into my room and apparantly left and I thought why would they come in and leave,
not really an abduction. But then I realised I have a gap in memory from when i started faliling my left arm to when they left.
And another thing that I thought it was a dream for was because if they had bent over me to make me look at them them they must have been taller than
I thought they were. But upon reflection i usually sleep on the right side of my bed.
However, I am aware of the power of the mind, and previously i had been looking at a lot of ET stuff.
Since then I have taken stupid precautions. Such as sleeping with knife and somtimes with a light. It scared me a bit. I told all my friends. I know
such objects would do nothing, but I think they send the message I dont want them back at least.
Thoughts?
Call me LLord
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reply posted on 24-10-2008 @ 12:49 AM by amongus
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Sky,
Being a moderator, you must be aware of alien agenda's way of contacting ET. I was a believer/experiencer of his method, although in the end I had
my reservations. Im curious, did you try his way, and how would you compare your method success to his?
Much thanks for bringing this to the forefront.
Amongus
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reply posted on 24-10-2008 @ 01:23 AM by merky
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Originally posted by TheRandom1
reply to post by Skyfloating
Um, you do know that you could possibly be inviting a demon in right?
You could also be communicating with something that is not an alien, whatever it is you contact, if it is evil, then it will try (and most likely
succeed) to fool you into thinking that it is something good and the thing you are looking for, even if you do not believe in demons, think about it,
what if you're wrong? What is it that you are allowing to interact with you on such an intimate level? A level that you might not even share with
your closest friend or loved one?
you are inviting a complete stranger into your inner most being, this my friend is very dangerous.
Whatever you decide to do, use caution.
-Lahara
Mmmm, I was just thinking the same thing. With the fact we are dealing in a collective public forum your actions and instructions are VERY UNcalled
for.
If you jump off a bridge you want others to follow, just cause YOU think it's fun.
There are people here that are easily lead to thinking you know what you are talking about. Which I have strong doubts about your mental wellness.
Myself think your a fool and should be fired and / or banned. There are folks that are easily frightened and might have an emotional breakdown because
of your irresponsibility.
Are you a teacher of meditation of any type or class?
If you recall the many abduction stories out there with these beings is NOT a good one. In fact all the ones I've read about have ended with
emotional problems and great fear of them coming back.
Have you heard or read ANY tales of good will for mankind? EVER?
You (just you) go ahead and do this .......the demons are waiting.
For everyone else, stay clear of this BS, it will lead you to dark places.
Nothing good will come of this.....NOTHING.
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reply posted on 24-10-2008 @ 01:41 AM by jephers0n
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Originally posted by silver6ix
reply to post by dhunter
Most recently I had an experience in which I "saw" something. Sounds like an odd thing to call strange right? Well, I saw something in the
experience that I couldnt really understand.
I remeber what i saw, but not in the way I remeber anything else. You know when you get an image, a distant memory in your mind, automatically your
brain calls forth the associations (a nice day with the family, a birthday, whatever) well in this case I cant. I remeber it but I cant actually
reference it, its like a ghost, I focus on it and it always stays just beyond my ability to interact with it.
Whats interesting is that I cant tell you what I saw. I know that sounds bizarre but I just cant, I have no point of reference to describe it. I cant
say "it was like this" or "it looked like that" I just cant find a way to describe it to anyone. Its probably the most puzzling thing I
experienced.
I have had many visions/images such as this. When I was a very young child I always used to tell my parents of 'Friends' in these dream states.
People I'd known for years, but the same thing as you say, I couldn't describe, or find words to even come close to describing these 'friends'.
Personally, I would say that the mind will block things it can't explain, given time. Hell, they could have been entirely just dreams. I haven't
posted any threads regarding these experiences, because as I lack any kind of 'proof' or 'evidence' I know this site would jump on, and tear apart
the thread. Anyways, The best I could put it, now, comes from a video which had a guy explaining a '4th dimension', and how a 'creature' from our,
3rd dimension, would have a problem explaining this new dimension to others of our own.
www.youtube.com...
I have never tried any form of meditation, but the idea of it has intrigued me for many years, I must admit. Thanks for the thread. I may look into
some basic forms of meditation, and possibly even try your methods, hopefully with some great results, be they for my own spiritual learning, or to
reach out for some form of contact through this medium.
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reply posted on 24-10-2008 @ 01:46 AM by alienesque
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hello
i must also say..i think i had some alien contact a few years ago whch lasted a few weeks..night time visits..maybe abduction and i seem to
remembersomething being pressed against my chest..and i have a mark there still years later.
the thing is i was terrified of going to bed so after a few weeks i literally begged them to leave me alone...they should just show me a sign they are
real so i know im not going mad and then leave me.
a day later i got a sign and i have been left alone ever since..i think.
i had promised them i would never disclose what the sign was and i never have and never will...but i can say it wasnt a craft.
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reply posted on 24-10-2008 @ 02:23 AM by Skyfloating
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For those of you warning that this is demonic, satanic, dark:
Thats just more of the fear-programming BS to keep the leash tight and not directed outwards toward the universe.
There are a few thousand fear-programms that keep the mind locked into a very small place, and this is just one of them. Im sure we´ll see a few
dozen more.
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reply posted on 24-10-2008 @ 02:38 AM by Skyfloating
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Hi there, I did not get into that so I cant give any reasonable judgement or comparison.
Fact is, I havent been reading up on UFOlogy since years...(for obvious reasons)
Care to give a short description of the method?
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