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posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 07:12 PM
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The Republican Party is stuck in a perceived mode this way...

I think the reality is, that some of those the Republican Party has for supporters are indeed Racist and that when slinging for votes among the poor, things are portrayed the way you get those votes.

But the reality, I am in about as well off a Republican and richie rich area as you get in the USA

and the crowd when I go out for a drink... downstairs btw from one of McCains condos... is about as Mixed as you will ever see.

The thing about the wealthy is... they don't much care what color you are in reality so long as you can pay the bill

Every major athlete that comes though town hangs around with Indians and Iranians Usually doctors, White Lawyers, and urm... Jewish Computer Geeks...HI!

The only racial distinction I ever see is usually by profession... different groups tend to earn their wealth in fairly common themed practices they dominate

No body gives a darn about Race when your on the Golf Course... that's real, the Republican Party isn't filled with Racists

You'd be surprised how many wealthy Black Republicans there really are!

The real race issues arise from going after the Poor voters who in actuality often are racists, be they from the hood or the trailer park...

Obama plays off poor Minority Votes, McCain play off Poor White votes


But I assure you, the global Elite is not headed by any Racial agenda, the Wealthy have one thing in Common

Money

and don't much care about any other factor




posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 08:44 PM
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No body gives a darn about Race when your on the Golf Course... that's real, the Republican Party isn't filled with Racists

You'd be surprised how many wealthy Black Republicans there really are!

The real race issues arise from going after the Poor voters who in actuality often are racists, be they from the hood or the trailer park...

Obama plays off poor Minority Votes, McCain play off Poor White votes


This is historically incorrect.


Recent voting demographics for African Americans suggest an overwhelming propensity to cast ballots in favor of Democratic candidates in presidential elections. Since 1964 this tendency has gained momentum and as the 2008 race comes closer, perhaps a larger number of African American voters will cast Democratic ballots than ever before.



The United States Census reported that 58 % of African Americans were voting in the presidential election of 1964. African Americans were voting Democratic 82% of the time. This number would swell to 92 % by 1968. With the exception of the 1972, 1984, and the 1992 elections Blacks would continue to give at least 80% of their collective votes to the Democratic presidential candidate says Minion K.C. Morris in African Americans and Political Participation.


racism-politics.suite101.com...

What exactly does "you'd be suprised by how many wealthy Black Rebulicans there really are" mean? In relation too..what? I'm just saying, that it is picking a losing battle.

ColoradoJens



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 09:31 PM
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To me, this election is more about race than anyone is willing to admit.
Most likely out of fear.

If 95% of the white vote went to Mccain who would win the election?
That won't happen because, most white people do not vote for someone because they are white. If they did there would be an outcry of racism and Obama would not have a chance.

If 95% of the black vote went to Obama... err wait that is what is happening. But they can't possibly be voting based on race could they?

And before anyone says blacks typically vote demo, while that may be true. It does not account for the huge increase in registry. It also does not account for the group of black women on the cover of the Toronto Star in Canada (major Toronto daily). Jumping around wearing Obama shirts, wishing they could vote is the US, because it is about time a black man became president... regardless of his policy, or qualifications or anything else.

My personal perspective as a non american

When Obama says he represents "change" he is quite simply talking about 2 things.

1. He is a democrat.
2. He is black

Hell that was apparent when he commented about not looking like any of the dudes on the dollar bills. And that is it, that is the change. If you take that away, in reality what change will there be? a few tax alterations? (some may argue socialism, but to me that is fluff, until more info can be verified)

When John Mccain says he represents change. What is he talking about?

1. He is not George Bush

Thats pretty much it. And that is the only reason th election is such a spectacle.



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 10:34 PM
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Hey Powerslave. African Americans traditionally vote overwhelmingly for the Democrats. Why, in this particular election, do you think they would change? What is it that the Republicans have NOT offered traditionally when the Black majority has voted for a white Democrat? Also, see my above post. Your argument is superficial based on the evidence.


The United States Census reported that 58 % of African Americans were voting in the presidential election of 1964. African Americans were voting Democratic 82% of the time. This number would swell to 92 % by 1968. With the exception of the 1972, 1984, and the 1992 elections Blacks would continue to give at least 80% of their collective votes to the Democratic presidential candidate says Minion K.C. Morris in African Americans and Political Participation.


racism-politics.suite101.com...

ColoradoJens

[edit on 27-10-2008 by ColoradoJens]



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 10:48 PM
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That looks a bit on the FAKE side.

Another failed attempt from democrats to look like the victims



posted on Oct, 27 2008 @ 10:52 PM
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Are you responding to someone or something in particular? I know neo-cons have telepathy within the party, but I'm not one of you. Translation?

ColoradoJens



posted on Oct, 28 2008 @ 08:21 PM
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I will use your own link for my point. Which was basically my point, saying that there is a huge increase in registered black voters from 2004. I find it interesting how they worded this line "Certainly, the uniqueness of the candidates bolstered this turnout"

What exactly does that mean do you think?




2008 Primary Indicators

According to the DNC (Democratic National Committee), Black voter turnout reached a highpoint in the 2008 primaries. Certainly, the uniqueness of the candidates bolstered this turnout. In South Carolina 48% of all primary voters was African American. Georgia saw an 85% increase in Black voters from 2004. Likewise, around the nation a boom in Black turnout was evident.

If these primary statistics are any indication of voting patterns in the 2008 presidential election, Democrats have a lot to be optimistic about. In addition to the party faithful, they can expect an infusion of new voters that will certainly enhance their chances for securing the White House.




What other possible reason could there be for the increase in black voters?

Obama won 95% of the Black vote against Clinton in the Primary, this has nothing to do with Dems vs. Reps.



posted on Oct, 28 2008 @ 09:28 PM
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Originally posted by PowerSlave
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I will use your own link for my point. Which was basically my point, saying that there is a huge increase in registered black voters from 2004. I find it interesting how they worded this line "Certainly, the uniqueness of the candidates bolstered this turnout"

What exactly does that mean do you think?




2008 Primary Indicators

According to the DNC (Democratic National Committee), Black voter turnout reached a highpoint in the 2008 primaries. Certainly, the uniqueness of the candidates bolstered this turnout. In South Carolina 48% of all primary voters was African American. Georgia saw an 85% increase in Black voters from 2004. Likewise, around the nation a boom in Black turnout was evident.

If these primary statistics are any indication of voting patterns in the 2008 presidential election, Democrats have a lot to be optimistic about. In addition to the party faithful, they can expect an infusion of new voters that will certainly enhance their chances for securing the White House.




What other possible reason could there be for the increase in black voters?

Obama won 95% of the Black vote against Clinton in the Primary, this has nothing to do with Dems vs. Reps.

To say it has nothign to do with it when the stats show only three times have they voted under 80% Dem. is a stretch. Now there is for the first time in history a black man running for President and you are suprised more blacks are interested in voting for him? Would you not see this as the expectation? Truthfully, for all of the reasons people vote for their candidate, most are because they will effect them personally. How can having a black man as the President be any worse for the African American community?

ColoradoJens




posted on Oct, 28 2008 @ 09:45 PM
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You obvoiusly missed my point about the primary, which completely eliminates the blacks for democrat as a rule.

And the increase in black voters is quite obvious.

I then noticed that you agree by asking whats wrong with people voting for someone they believe they relate to better. In this case, a black man and black voters.

I didn't say it was right or wrong. I was merely pointing out that race has more to do with this election than people will admit. But everyone is so darn afraid of talking about it.

On the flip side...... Suppose 95 % of white people "felt" more comfortable voting for someone white because they relate to white people better?



posted on Oct, 29 2008 @ 06:36 AM
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In response to PowerSlave - regardless of Obamas' colour, I think this election would have been a spectacle, after all, it is an election, they all go through the same processes of character-assassination, spin and rhetoric from both sides.

Just find it sad and demoralising that race and racist behaviour still seems to be such a divise issue in society. To the point of my original post, I'm aware that the bastardised-dollar bill was from a very small minority of Republican supporters, I just wanted to flag it as a point of interest. I'm actually quite surprised that this wasn't already on ATS, as I only stumbled across it on Popbitch (a web entertainment/tabloid).

I started this thread to learn a bit more about US politics... I'm learning, some interesting points and comments being made, thanks guys.



posted on Oct, 29 2008 @ 07:15 AM
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What the Obama buck really proves is that freedom of speech works within the
United States. It allows you to be publically stupid with no recourse except to tell others that you did something stupid.

There have been several variates of this in the last couple of months that made the news.

As for a Republican or demoncratic thing, both parties have done incredibly bad taste media over the years. This year, it just seems the Republicans are trying new ways to lose.



posted on Oct, 29 2008 @ 10:13 AM
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Originally posted by PowerSlave
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You obvoiusly missed my point about the primary, which completely eliminates the blacks for democrat as a rule.

And the increase in black voters is quite obvious.

I then noticed that you agree by asking whats wrong with people voting for someone they believe they relate to better. In this case, a black man and black voters.

I didn't say it was right or wrong. I was merely pointing out that race has more to do with this election than people will admit. But everyone is so darn afraid of talking about it.

On the flip side...... Suppose 95 % of white people "felt" more comfortable voting for someone white because they relate to white people better?



Ok. There is no correlation to OVERWHELMING MAJORITY (over 80%). The ONLY reason they are voting for Obama is because he is black. Thanks for the insight. As I stated before, there is a NATURAL increase if for the first time EVER IN HISTORY YOUR MINORITY candidate is running. Does this not make sense to you? Your preposition is that RACE is the determining factor - please back this up. Are you sure that it isn't simply because this candidate would better represent a traditionally oppressed minority? I guess in watching the mile long lines of McCain supporters (didn't see a single black person) yelling racial slurs by your "standards" means that racist white people are conspirining to keep out the black man. How many whites are voting for McCain? Do you see how this simple deduction is dangerous?

ColoradoJens



posted on Oct, 29 2008 @ 12:04 PM
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Actually I read that polling suggests that approximately 50% of white people are selecting Obama, and that if Obama wants to win he will need that 50% to do it. Which would kind of line up with current polls of him in the over-all polls being at 51-52%.

Dangerous? Maybe. It might be the reason no one will talk about it or the media's many, opine that race will not play a role in the final vote.

I however, disagree.

Again, I didn't say right or wrong. It is a valid point of this being the first minority to appear on the final ticket. I have also heard other minorities are leaning to Obama as well, likely for the same reason.



posted on Oct, 29 2008 @ 12:40 PM
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Originally posted by hinky
What the Obama buck really proves is that freedom of speech works within the
United States. It allows you to be publically stupid with no recourse except to tell others that you did something stupid.

There have been several variates of this in the last couple of months that made the news.

As for a Republican or demoncratic thing, both parties have done incredibly bad taste media over the years. This year, it just seems the Republicans are trying new ways to lose.


Hinkey, you hit the nail on the head. Good observation.

ColoradoJens



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