Are you saying we should limit this to America? These corporations are world-wide for the most part, and the economic plight we are in, is pretty much world wide. Europe is in as much of a mess as the US is. Countries like Iceland are virtually bankrupt because of this.

Don't you think a World-Wide movement would be more effective?

oops double post.

Anyway..

Well it sounded good.

I admit my foible.
By all means all should be included. It's just difficult being just a man and trying to make sense of the way this thing has effected the entire world.
The words of some of us may change that. That is incredible.
Forgive me.

[edit on 22/10/2008 by reticledc]

First, we must individually get our lives in order . . . there's no way we can collectively make things better if individually we are all screwed up . . . To do that, I think each one interested in making the difference must . . .

1. Stop buying anything on credit. That only fuels their system and makes you hostage to their whims.

2. Start a trading/bartering/cooperative system that sidesteps having to pay sales or service taxes in any way shape or form.

3. Embargo any corporation that does not include ethical treatment of people as part of their operating plan.

4. Vote in your elections. Stop voting for the same party all the time just because that's who's always received your vote, or your parents vote. Actually dig in and find out something about who you vote for . . . once you do that, you probably won't. And don't bash those who do not ascribe specifically to the way you think. Even the stupid have a right to their own stupidity. You just have to be smart enough to spot it and avoid it.

5. Start a stock up plan. YOu don't necessarily have to make it some survivalist thing, rather stock up in your basement or some other suitable place. But remember. Shut the hell up about it. Nobody needs to know how prepared you are or you'll end up having prepared for them.

6. Arm yourself intellectually, spiritually and physically. Learn as much as you can about as many real things (fixing your car, home repairs, first aid, stuff like that. Become spiritual in a sense that you understand your place in the universe and your right to be here, be happy and enjoy your life. Know how to fight, both martial arts and the use of weaponry will surely save your bacon when the chips are down.

Those are just a few things that I see need to be done. I'm guessing that you'll find in doing these things, you will meet like minded people with the same goal.

YOu will chat . . .first amongst yourselves, then as a growing circle of friends, then as a group, a way of life, a movement . . . a political force with which the powers that be must recognize.

That is how political parties are formed . . . they start individually and grow.

We can do that . . . it will just take time and a clear dedication to making that happen.

How about this?
We print up cards with our organization's name and LOGO. We go to companies and stores that are part of the gang of thieves, and we leave cards there, with a statement to the effect that "We are refusing to buy goods at this store, because you are part of the effort to seize our economic future.

Or think of a better slogan... just a quick thought.

Also posting a list of companies, Congressmen, etc that have been complicit in this treasonous set of actions, and putting them on bulletin boards.

I have a suggestion, how about when everything has been decided, name, logo, etc, people with the expertise in different blogs and online journals create a journal/blog dedicated to the cause. The journal would have the basic information regarding the groups cause and message, then a link to redirect to a main site or blog. I just figured since some of the more popular blogs/ journals draw a large community, it be easier to spread the word and get like-minded people involved.

Originally posted by ProfEmeritus


We are all in this together; Americans, Canadians, Europeans, Australians, Islanders, Asians, anyone who feels that something has to be done to win back a say in a world that is going crazy.

We believe that concerted coordinated efforts to boycott, protest peacefully, put pressure on representatives, etc is the way to win back a say.

Let's use this thread as a Brainstorming session.
Let's come together for a common cause, to win back our world.


[edit to minimize all caps in title]

[edit on 22-10-2008 by ADVISOR]

Well, I for one am not a citizen of the world but of America. It is America that I am moved for and nothing else. We have the best nation of all nations. We should help other nations who aspire to love freedom, but to take care of ourselves first in my priority.

[edit on 22-10-2008 by Fromabove]

Is this movement specifically against corruption in corporate America and its far-reaching effects on Politics?

Is this what the group is? On the outside, it looks to me like this movement is being organized as a reaction to recent events in the economic world. When the economy rebounds, I'd expect the strength of this movement to dissipate quite rapidly if we are so focused on just one core group of issues. Can we broaden our horizons a bit?

I appreciate the importance of adjusting how we use the money we have, of naming retailers and companies that we ought not do business with, but there are so many other things we can and should move against.

For this reason, I think we shouldn't name our group anything having to do with Finance, or Corporations. If we do, it'll be just like what happens when gas prices go up. People get pissed, start devoting energy and money to clean energy, carpool, spend less, and then they lower the prices to just above where they started and a wave of relief comes over us and we revert to non-confrontational sheep.

I don't want what could be a powerful movement, go out of fashion because its focused too specifically. Because I for one am fed up with a bit more than just the economy.

Well when you have the downturn in the market like today happening all the time, I don't see an end to it soon. Gives us some time to play this thing for what it's worth.
Loosing revenue is the only thing these Fawkes understand.
If they try to tax us more afterward to make up the lost revenue, then it will be apparent to everyone, not just us that they are MFers

[edit on 22/10/2008 by reticledc]

I still think we need to enlighten people by having a physical newspaper. Their are only certain mindsets that seek the truth on their own with the internet. Most who do are the younger, off-beat crowd. Most who think of themselves to be knowledgeable are still getting their info from MSM and controlled newspapers, magazines etc..We need tens of millions of Americans, or applied globally, hundreds of millions of people, to be informed and come to the same understandings. This means we need as many outlets as possible in the beginning, getting the basic facts out. Then we can work on a unified group.

Well seeing as how this mess originated for the most part here and the world is being effected by our ridiculous actions, I would say this place would be the best place to start. Since everyone is watching us anyway, those in other localities can watch what we do and organize themselves. Or not. Some just don't want help.

The first thing, before anything else, before a name, a site, an email campaign, is to explicitly determine what it is we stand for. We need a platform. I'll start it off with a few ideas of mine:

We, the people, believe in the following ideals:


• 1. Individuals are free to make their own decisions, and government should not interfere with this freedom, save to prevent a loss of freedom to other citizens.
  
  
• 2.Individuals will face consequences as a result of the exercise of the freedoms expressed in (1), and it is the responsibility of the individuals to deal with such consequences.
  
  
• 3.Government shall not infringe on the freedoms of the people to exercise the common rights of their respective societies, nor should government involve itself in mitigating those consequences that may be faced by individuals as a result of their actions.
  
  
• 4.The following freedoms are enumerated as what we believe to be the inherent freedoms that should be ppresent in any society:
  
  
  • The freedom to protect oneself, one's family, and one's neighbors from harm
    
  • The freedom to speak one's mind freely, without regard for governmental or institutional censorship.
    
  • The freedom to be aware of the world in which one lives, through whatever means one may decide to use.
    
  • The freedom to form groups for whatever purpose individuals in such groups may desire.
    
  • The freedom to have an equal voice compared to all other individuals in one's society, in regard to controlling the operation and direction of one's government.
    
  • The freedom to be treated fairly without regard to age, gender, political affiliations, race, ethnicity, age (assuming an age of majority), or economic means, by respective governments.
    
  • The freedom to overthrow tyranny.
    
  • The freedom to own property and to use it for purposes determined by the owner of such property.

Feel free to add/subtract/discuss/burn the author at the stake. this is just what came out of the top of my head.

TheRedneck