Originally posted by tgidkp
that was an incredibly rude and arrogant response...as though i have no understanding of what i am speaking on and just making the whole thing
up.
Nice try, but it is you who is incredibly rude and arrogant. You presume that because someone doesn't see some hidden conspiracy in masonic ritual
that I must be be to dumb to see it and really its all there.
You cannot create a non-falsifiable conspiracy theory and not have it pointed out, especially when you use the "oh, well your just too dumb to see
it" line to explain why no one else sees it.
Originally posted by tgidkp
it is unwise to make such assumptions about people. particularly when not in face-to-face conversation.
Then I recommend you listen to your own advice and stop doing that.
Originally posted by tgidkp
i have studied, from the outside, the mormon temple ritual for about 12 years (i come from a mormon family, but do not practise myself). i became
intrigued early on about the comparisons of the temple ritual to masonic rites. these comparisons are accurate, BTW.
No, they are not accurate. Jospeh Smith did indeed take large parts of the mormon temple ritual from masonic ritual, but these have been widely
changed by the church as time progressed. I highly recommend you get a updated expose of the ritual.
Originally posted by tgidkp
from what i have learned through personal inspiration in the course of my study, i can say that there is without a doubt to me hidden
information in the mormon temple ritual of the nature which i described before (control structure, etc). to me it is undeniable, although i cannot
see any clear way to explain these things aside from the rituals themselves. this makes it very difficult to talk about.
And from years of studying masonic ritual, I can say that without a doubt to me there is no "hidden information" about some control structure
conspiracy.
Originally posted by tgidkp
you state that there is "no grand control structure"...as though you could possibly know! such a thing for fact. in my view, the control
structure is so incredibly vast and convoluted that it is nearly incomprehensible.
I love this. You state that there is some "grand control structure" even though
you could never possibly know such a thing for a fact. In
fact, you've made up a non-falsifiable theory where everyone who disagrees is just too dumb to see it. The simplest explanation is usually the most
probable: and the most probable is that your grand conspiracy does not exist.
Originally posted by tgidkp
you are very flippant about the "function of knowledge". as though these rituals are just yer ordinary run-of-the-mill classroom type knowledge.
no. they are not. they are a highly specialized form of communication, and ought to be viewed as such.
I think you clearly have some reading comprehension issues, because stating that understanding ritual takes a life time doesn't fit the definition of
"flippant" - I think you must be having a imaginary argument with yourself. Masonic rituals are pretty but they are not unique, they were written by
normal men - smart men - but normal.
Originally posted by tgidkp
perhaps the reason none of the self-professed experts are getting it is because they are all as dismissive of it as you seem to be.
You really are making this up as you go along. I have never claimed to be a expert but you certainly have. But perhaps you are "getting it" because
you want to see something that isn't really there. The power of suggestion is very strong.
Originally posted by tgidkp
simply because you do not understand a thing does not mean that it, in fact, does not exist. nothing wrong with saying "i dont know."
Simply because you desperately want to see something does not mean that it, in fact, does exist. Nothing wrong with admitting that you just don't
know.
Originally posted by tgidkp
and try not to be so rude, huh?
No problem. Your the one being rude. You should take your own advice.
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