Is it un-American to choose NOT to vote?, page 1


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Topic started on 22-10-2008 @ 06:06 PM by Replikant
Forgive me if this is a silly question. I'm not the most politically savvy person; this is the first election that I will be able to participate in. (I'm 20.) When I registered to vote awhile back, I was very excited that I was going to be able to participate in democracy, etc... politically I am very middle-of-the-road, perhaps leaning more towards conservative, but not enough that just one issue would make me vote Republican (such as gay marriage, etc).

As I started to read about both candidates and listen to their speeches, etc, I found that they were not as radically different as I expected. I feel that both Obama and McCain, at heart, want the best for a country and want to take a new direction and bring change to a disheartened America. (Perhaps Obama has put a little more emphasis on change...)

The problem is, neither of the candidates seem to be President material. McCain seems to have a touch of the warmonger in him...I'm afraid that things will not change much, going from Bush to McCain if he is elected. Also he will take longer to withdraw our troops from Iraq. Something about him is unsettling...

On the other hand, Obama (as I heard in a speech he gave) apparently wants to do no less than disarm America, greatly lowering our defenses and nuclear weapons. I understand that he wants to make a push for peace, but there are so many countries that HATE us, I feel this is a really bad idea.

There's other points on other issues that make both candidates look bad, not to mention the relative inexperience on both sides (Obama and Palin), and the amount of mudslinging and accusations between the two candidates shows an alarming lack of respect and maturity..... which comes to my question.

Is it un-American to be registered to vote and not do so?

Because I'm strongly considering not voting for either one of these men.
Thanks for any feedback...and sorry if I sound naive.

-Replikant


reply posted on 22-10-2008 @ 06:16 PM by jam321
reply to post by elevatedone



If that no voting is a form of protest, does a person still lose his/her right to complain?

Just curious.

[edit on 22-10-2008 by jam321]


reply posted on 22-10-2008 @ 06:18 PM by ItsTheQuestion
reply to post by jam321



Well said, jam.

For one to truly be "un-American", one would have to renounce his/her citizenship. Or the US government would have to strip your citizenship from you.

The recent dust-up on the campaign trail wherein some on the right are accusing their rivals of being somehow "anti-" or "un-American" reveals so much about the unfortunate direction that our once-United country is heading.

What, exactly, is "un-American", anyhow? A very subjective, relative label. Like any other label, I suppose.


reply posted on 22-10-2008 @ 06:21 PM by elevatedone
reply to post by jam321




Fair question.

I guess in my mind, If I don't vote then, it's not that I lose my right to complain / protest, just that maybe my complaint or protest doesn't mean as much. Does that make sense?

I don't know, I'm one who thinks in simple terms, no vote = no complaining.



reply posted on 22-10-2008 @ 06:38 PM by Benevolent Heretic
reply to post by Replikant



It's TOTALLY your choice and only YOUR opinion of whether you're un-American" or not matters. People have been throwing around that "un-American" thing for too long! It's ridiculous! It's what people say when their argument stinks.

If none of the candidates appeal to you and you cannot in good conscience vote for one of the options, and don't feel it's right to vote for someone you have disagreements with, then not voting is a valid choice.

And I personally believe you have the right to bitch, even if you don't vote.

I don't agree with any candidate 100%. I never have. But I pick the one that's closest to what I think the country needs and go with that. Voting is important to me. It feels great. But it's a right, not an obligation, IMO.


reply posted on 22-10-2008 @ 06:43 PM by Replikant
reply to post by secretstash



Thank you for bringing up the fact that there are other candidates besides McCain and Obama..honestly I'd completely overlooked that fact until right now...

Seriously considering doing that instead.

*goes off to look up info on the other candidates*


reply posted on 22-10-2008 @ 07:04 PM by E-ville
you say you dont like either of the two canidates.. well there are far more that 2 canidates, your being blinded by the media, Look up the third parties.

Id recommend looking at the constitution party, Chuck Baldwin. Thats who Im voting for and many many others are as well.

And for the people that still think that a independent or third party cant win, I live in Minnesota and we voted in a independent for governor, and shocked the establishment that though it would never happen, and we took the election easly.

THird parties investigate the third parties and make the choice for the best canidate dont fall in to the lesser of two evils, becuase if you voting for the lesser of two evils your still voting for evil.

As for not voting, id say do what you want but then you should not wine or do any complaining about the outcome, and should accept responcability for the outcome, becuase if all the non voters voted for say Chuck baldwin he would most likely easily win.

I know allot of people that just want to life there life and don't care about politics, well then if thats the case you should vote for some one that wants to lessen the federal government and get them out of your life, most people however done even know how badly there effected by these government controls. Imagine having 15% more income if the income tax was abolished, imaging having less gas tax, imagine not being at war, imagine not having troops stationed in 130+ military bases allover the world. Imagine being able to buy what you want to buy not what the government says you can buy.
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