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Treasury Blacks Out Key Parts of Private Bailout Contracts

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posted on Oct, 22 2008 @ 06:09 PM
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It only makes sense that Paulson/Goldman Sachs would get their share. After all Cheney/Halliburton got their no-bid billions in Iraq, Rumsfeld/Gilead got their cut using the birdflu scare so the government could stockpile mass quantities of Tamiflu. The Bush's got some of their cut through their Carlyle defense contractor holdings (which did great with years of constant war), and the list goes on and on for all of the loyal cronies.


I only hope the nation can eventually recover from the bilking this dismal administration has put us taxpayers through.


[edit on 10/22/08 by redmage]




posted on Oct, 22 2008 @ 06:24 PM
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Originally posted by GhostR1der
How many inside jobs do they need to do before people will actually see the govt for what it is?


The fact is, most people do see the government for what it really is. The failure lies within the fear everyone has of the government and the brainwashing that has been done by the MSM and disinfo groups. There is too large of a percentage of people that are just far to ill equipped physically, mentally and psychologically to deal with the government in an effective and productive way. Even the attempt at a peaceful protest rally has now gained such a stigma from those that would infect it with riotous action that people are more likely afraid to show up for fear of being arrested by default.



posted on Oct, 22 2008 @ 06:24 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043
So.... in other words ... these thieves of tax payer keep paying themselves for contracts to "favored firms"

.... it seems that we will be bankrupting ourselves, the tax payer, just to keep the wealthy global elite happy and their minions "working on the problem".




Marge, the Fed., the Treas., the Fed/Treasury monster has been doing the psychology trick on all of us....by saying that the 'system' only got derailed


meaning that only a rescue effort is needed to fix the problems....
Implying, the basic infrastructure & money generating architecture is sound,
and there was just a momentary anomaly of too many fraudsters at-one-time which created this temporary abberation of the banks & economic activities.

the fixes, by GoldmanSachs & the other accounting firms to a lesser extent is going to take less time than expected...
partially because of the +$70bn in bonus pool monies have been guaranteed to the large staff of employees working at the Firms (the same firms which generated the toxic-asset problems)

...these same employees/execs are being awarded these ill-gotten bonuses --which translates to 'The Fed/Treasury' has bought the heart-&-souls of potential whistle-blowers and won over a cadre of helpers to enact the future Fed/Treasury re-organization of the Market/Economic/Monetary System.


the PTB, explain that we must recapitalize the system, or the result will be worse than a temporary market decline.
So, we are told that a dry turd under our nose is way better than wet cow-patties on our heads....Some choice, eh?



posted on Oct, 22 2008 @ 06:43 PM
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Originally posted by dgtempe
Will there ever be an end to this madness?????

It's hopeless, you just can't control those people, can you?


God help us all

Damn straight, sister.



posted on Oct, 22 2008 @ 07:03 PM
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I heard that they threatened martial law and tanks rolling down mainstreet if congress didnt pass the bill.

Listen. Tanks are not invulnerable. They have a crew of human beings who at some point has to get out to use the facilities or eat or sleep. At that point you can overcome them. So I don't see what the big deal is. Let em put tanks in the street, I'll be glad to steal it and use it against them.



posted on Oct, 22 2008 @ 07:23 PM
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Our believed Senators and Congressmen/women and our representatives are lining their pockets with even more of our money. Folks, we got to throw the bastards OUT!!!!



posted on Oct, 22 2008 @ 07:52 PM
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I don't understand why no one is doing anything about this. Our senators are standing by letting this happen...

Actually, the senators and Congression Representatives aren't just standing by, they are actively part of this theft of democracy.
They are all guilty of treason, with the exception of a few brave ones like Ron Paul who oppose them at every step.



posted on Oct, 22 2008 @ 07:55 PM
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It's hopeless, you just can't control those people, can you?

Some say that pitchforks are an effective means of control of the crooks.



posted on Oct, 22 2008 @ 07:57 PM
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Our believed Senators and Congressmen/women and our representatives are lining their pockets with even more of our money. Folks, we got to throw the bastards OUT!

I agree, but at the moment, it seems America is putting a new set of bastards in power. Only the names and faces change. Underneath, they are all the same.



posted on Oct, 22 2008 @ 08:09 PM
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Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
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I don't understand why no one is doing anything about this. Our senators are standing by letting this happen...

Actually, the senators and Congression Representatives aren't just standing by, they are actively part of this theft of democracy.
They are all guilty of treason, with the exception of a few brave ones like Ron Paul who oppose them at every step.


Stars for you on that one.. Ron Paul may be out of the race but if we elect Chuck Baldwin, Baldwin said hed put Ron Paul as head of the treasury.. If thathappened the establishment and the federal reserve would crap bricks, they would be done for.. ron paul would expose every misstep of the treasury and fight to get the federal reserve shut down.. and that my freinds is whats causing this entire economic problem a organization that messes with economics through money injections and interest rate price fixing.

Think about this the federal reserve came into power in 1913, they killed the economy by the 30's, did it again in the 70's and 80's and now 2008.

And across the pond they have the same thing , the bank of England.. you know the Euro, a cross country currency that they all use..

This bill handed power to the fed reserve that they wanted, now they almost have complete control of our economy.. they will trash the economy then present us with the "fix" and new currency.. This is how it always happens they create the problem and come in with the fix.. the fix only fixes the issues they have wit the economy not the real issues of a fiat currency.



posted on Oct, 22 2008 @ 08:18 PM
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I've started a new thread here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...'

It's a call to ALL ATS members to contribute to create a plan that we have been talking about here. Please join in and contribute your ideas.
Let's make this a world-wide effort. It isn't just America that is in this mess. Our friends in Europe, Australia, and other continents are all caught up in this mess created by crooks.



posted on Oct, 22 2008 @ 08:50 PM
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Why aren't we storming Capitol hill and lynching these bastards for treason? What is it going to take? Is it going to take us all being in bread lines or living in tents before we act? They talk about war on terror when they are the terrorist! Using fear of martial law in America if this bill wasn't passed to me is a terrorist act. They are using fear to get everything they want. Fear of martial law,fear of protesting and being arrested for exercising our RIGHT, fear of a crashed economy, fear of terrorist attacking us again. They are waging war against the very thing they have become. Where is our liberation?Are you all too scared? Would you rather die on your feet fighting or would you rather live on your knees as a slave? God help your children for your cowardice. I truly fear for the life they will have because you were to much of a bunch of cowards to save their future.

They get away with this because we the people let them. If we showed them we will not stand by and let them continue to do these things they'll have no choice but to stop or suffer the consequences. Where is our military that took an oath to defend us from these very types of things? Our government has become a domestic threat to we the people.



posted on Oct, 22 2008 @ 09:05 PM
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We're making plans to organize on this thread right now:
www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Oct, 22 2008 @ 09:14 PM
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Two things could be done easily to take back control of our country from the corporate owned politic and the central banking elite, and restore the Preample to our Constitution.

One is to pass the National Initiative for Democracy.

The National Initiative for Democracy (NI4D) is a proposal which will permit the People to make or change laws by initiative. Several states already have this power for state amendments. Originally created & introduced to Congress by Alaskan Senator Mike Gravel in the 1980's. It has been continually refined to it's present form and supported by several organizations. Ralph Nader believes it may be the only way we can ever hope to have a "voice" in our Democracy, and not only be heard by our representatives, but have our will obeyed. The current Bank manipulated economic meltdown clearly demonstrated that we can and will be ignored over the "money lenders" who, in reality, rule most of the world.

The second, and probably the most important thing we can do, is to reform our money=debt economic system. A system controlled by the central banks of the world, and with the sole intention of creating bubble then collapse, over and over, stealing more wealth and property with each "business cycle", until (and we are very close) they have such an influence over commerce, that all Humanity will be slave to them.

Since 1913, with the passage of the Federal Reserve Act, signed by President Woodrow Wilson (much to his later regret), the United States Treasury officially privatized the printing & issuance of our currency. Currency that is distributed as "debt", or a loan if you prefer. That's why we have a National Debt.

To better understand this really ingenious & simple strategy used by bankers since they evolved from the goldsmiths of our distant past, visit The Money Masters. There you can learn about the best kept secret of all modern history and read a proposed Monetary Reform Act that was endorsed by none other than Dr. Milton Friedman, a man whom I have personally cursed since President Reagan began his foray into "trickle-down" economics. I've come to realize, the Neoconservatives who are the "point" of this deadly spear, they are still mere salves like the rest of us. The bankers who are ultimately in charge are not wholly known, and it is their secrecy that results in stories of the Illuminarti & the like. However, legend & theory aside, these men & women(?) are real, and must be stopped. --- PatriotRebel



posted on Oct, 22 2008 @ 09:23 PM
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Originally posted by dgtempe
Everything is coming to a head. People are going to decide that they have nothing to lose by taking their torches and pitchforks to DC.
There is no excuse for this stuff to be blacked out other than more secrets, more stealing from the people, more funds for Halliburton and such.

Will there ever be an end to this madness?????





I'm actually kind of grateful to see this in the open. These criminals are now acting so brazenly that even the worst brain-dead couch potatoes are starting to wake up. We've been robbed and now they are even taking away the bread and circuses.

Where will it end? Some people I've heard are supporting the notion of setting up the hangman's gallows in D.C....



posted on Oct, 22 2008 @ 09:37 PM
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Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
Two things could be done easily to take back control of our country from the corporate owned politic and the central banking elite, and restore the Preample to our Constitution.

One is to pass the National Initiative for Democracy.

The second, and probably the most important thing we can do, is to reform our money=debt economic system.





I agree completely with eliminating the Federal Reserve system. This parasitic system should never have been implemented in the first place.

I disagree with ballot initiatives on a national scale. Mob rule will ensure that individual rights will get trampled on a massive scale. Look to California for examples.

A much better thing would be to have direct citizen recall of *all* federal politicians. If such a system were in place, the electorate could have removed Bush and Cheney from office after the Democrats refused to do their duty.

We also need strict two term limits (zero retirement benefits) for all federal politicians.



posted on Oct, 22 2008 @ 09:57 PM
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A much better thing would be to have direct citizen recall of *all* federal politicians. If such a system were in place, the electorate could have removed Bush and Cheney from office after the Democrats refused to do their duty.

We also need strict two term limits (zero retirement benefits) for all federal politicians.

I agree. In fact, I had proposed that on the new thread that I created to enlist ideas for a call to action.
I would even go further though. I would limit the terms to one, including the Senate and the House. With 310,000,000 people, I don't think the old argument that we couldn't get 535 people to run every 2/6 years holds water any more.



posted on Oct, 22 2008 @ 10:00 PM
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AMEN...I have championed one term limits for years.....Nothing to make you a good lobbyist!



posted on Oct, 22 2008 @ 11:21 PM
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This is really, really bogus. This blacked out form would be laughable if it wasn't so darn criminal. I can't imagine Paulson will get away with this stuff much longer. He better get some good bodyguards. You steal people's money and they don't take it lightly. They will be calling for his blood about the time he leaves his post. The unmitigated gall this man has to rob the taxpayers blind. He will pay. Mark my words, he will pay.



posted on Oct, 22 2008 @ 11:37 PM
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Thats not even the scary part.

Sec. 8. Review.

Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency.



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