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Is there an opposite of Illuminati?


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reply posted on 26-10-2008 @ 04:12 PM by Illumina


One of the greatest Patriots in American History (Thomas Jefferson) was a student of Adam Weishaupt and Illuminism. The thing that is profound about this is that Jefferson was a libertarian at heart as well as being vehemently opposed to the centralization of power caused by the British Banks. For this, it's my opinion that the Illuminati like any organization can become corrupted, yet still have members that hold the traditional beliefs of the organization. I'd also venture to say that quite a few members of the CFR, Bilderberg, Trilateral Commision, etc. may hold humanistic views that go against the end goals of their respective group. In other words, much of the clashing in the world is caused behind the scenes and non manufactured like many think.

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reply posted on 26-10-2008 @ 05:27 PM by Secret Master


Originally posted by Atlantican
YES, there are other contestants for first place and the fallout of the struggle is what we are watching now. It's bigger than even the president could imagine.

One day George W. woke up to find that he IS NOT the most powerful man in the world and the US / Russian administrations are NOT the most powerful organizations on the planet.

Another day, Mr. X, the head of the (as we call them) illuminati woke up to find that he is but a small cog in an extremely complex ordered chaos 'machine'. They are the visible ones, who strive for publicity through secrecy, if that makes any sense. They all want to be suspected as being part as it's an instant STREET CRED within the ranks of the wannabes. The are nothing but evil nerds with makeovers, large waistlines and a lack of real appeal with people, mates. Without revealing their finances, families they have literally no shot at mating. Those exposed for what they are regret ever being exposed as now they can't even trust their own security detail for fear of being clipped. Being around anyone connected would nauseate even the most conditioned individual. It's a wonder their hearts can be kept beating, even with the high tech we've got - explosively self loathing as they are.

Those are the facts.


You think G.W. was under any illusions that he was the most powerful man in the world? the man was born a puppet and he knew it before you did.

Uhh, and it seems more like your making pot shots at nerds and fat people then stating facts.... what facts are you presenting us here??



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reply posted on 26-10-2008 @ 05:44 PM by Secret Master


I know some freemasons who would likely tell you that THEY are the opposition to the illuminati.

These men of whom i speak, have at length disscussed with me, that they 1) Do not support the fractional reserve monetary system of the federal reserve and world bank. 2) do not support G.W. in his open-ended "War on whatever". 3) do not support Obama... or McCain.

Further, some of these men have done so much as to tell me point blank that the illuminati made an attempt to infiltrate and control the Freemason order, but their efforts were discovered and subverted.

Maybe the reason that the masons get such a bad rep is that the Illuminati wants it that way

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reply posted on 29-10-2008 @ 07:02 PM by Atno1


the oppsite of the illuminati is the people. just like every other goverment the people have always either been for or against them.



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reply posted on 29-10-2008 @ 07:09 PM by tjack


I'm surprised no one mentioned the Discordians...the non prophet disorganization.
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(Hail Eris)

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reply posted on 29-10-2008 @ 08:26 PM by JoshNorton


Originally posted by tjack
I'm surprised no one mentioned the Discordians...the non prophet disorganization.
en.wikipedia.org...



(Hail Eris)
shhhhhh... they'll all want one.



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reply posted on 31-10-2008 @ 03:25 AM by TXMACHINEGUNDLR


Me. I believe in nothing really. Dont care about power, and could care less what happens to the world. Selfish and mean most of the time. People with "power" do not impress me. I have always had money, but have always just done my own thing. Think of Chevy Chase in Caddy Shack armed........And that is close.



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reply posted on 31-10-2008 @ 09:48 AM by Privy_Princess


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Freemasonry is just a big ole puzzle. Where you come out of it is anyone's guess. Freemasonry is the puzzle. The Illuminati are the people that greet you at the end of the correct path.

Oh, and I agree. They don't show themselves. It's obvious by the games they play that they are fun-loving people. They like to play tricks. They like to play with peoples' lives. If you want in, you have to be WORTHY of it. Those with their name in the spotlight are obviously nowhere near the nucleus.



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reply posted on 20-1-2009 @ 07:52 PM by Maban


In our world, in our universe all come in 3's. not two's as many have come to falsely believe. Balance is established between the good, the bad, and the neutral. The light, the dark, and the gray. It is only safe to assume everything and all follow the laws of the Universe, especially secret organizations like the Illuminati. So if that is the case whom are they?

We are the Shards of the original Bavarian Illuminati.

If you hold any interest please play this thread a visit, a glance:
Shards of the Illuminati

- Maban



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