Is there an opposite of Illuminati?, page 1
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reply posted on 22-10-2008 @ 09:44 AM by emsed1
reply to post by Spooky Fox Mulder


There is a great thread in this forum called 'Shards of the Illuminati' by a member who claims to be a member and tried to explain the structure.

He said the 'good guys' basically are organized into cells called 'shards' where they concentrate on keeping humanity from blowing itself up.

There are also 'remnants' who claim the Illuminati name but are self-serving and not interested in helping humanity at all.

This was a fascinating thread and whether you believe his claims or not it makes for great reading.

www.abovetopsecret.com...


reply posted on 22-10-2008 @ 01:09 PM by psychedeliack
Yes. The Legend Of Atlantis (4parts) on google explain it quite well. I put the links to them in this thread I started. Just think of what the Tao Te Ching teaches, and then you'll see with clarity how both sides are working for the same goal. The end result will be something greater than either side could cook up.
Just warning you, a lot of folks love this documentary and come away smiling in affirmation, and a lot of folks hate this and come away confused. Definitely worth the watch. And no, im not trying to bait people into my dead thread, just honestly trying to share a piece of the puzzle...


reply posted on 25-10-2008 @ 06:42 PM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by Spooky Fox Mulder
In response to the original post by Spooky Fox Mulder (a great series), your description of the Illuminati is pretty accurate. The head honchos are the Rothschild's, Rockefellers, Morgans, etal., many who are pretty ancient but many members are the offspings of these families and are much younger. These same people also belong to the Bilderberger Group, Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), Ford Foundation, and various other groups that all have the same agenda. A "New World Order".

I've read a lot concerning most of the secret societies and then have tried to separate fact from fiction. Truth is these members do control a great portion of what happens on this planet.

One example; Zbigniev Brzezinski is a member of the Illuminati, Bilderbergers, CFR, and he also co-founded the Trilateral Commission (TC) in 1973 with David Rockerfeller. He was Jimmy Carter's National Security Adviser and included Carter as a member of the TC.
We all know what the Carter presidency produced.

ZB has also groomed and mentored Barack Obama over the last 20 years, who most likely will be our next President. ZB's goal, along with other members, is to destroy Russia. He has openly admitted this in interviews. He is 78 years old and this will be his last Hurrah if Obama becomes President because he along with others control Obama, who has been referred to as "The Manchurian Candidate".

So expect the worse. (Possible Nuclear war with Russia?)

This next presidency could be worse than the Bush Presidency (If that's possible. It is if Obama does indeed go after Russia. He has already stated to bomb Pakistan).

Shrub Bush is also a member of secret societies along with his father. And let's not forget "The Skull and Bones". His presidency will go down as the worst in history unless Obama trumps him with the help of ZB.

There is no "secret society" that opposes the Illuminati that I am aware of. The only way to oppose them and these other groups is through knowledge.
Know thine enemy.

A large number of U.S. politicians are members of some of these societies so unless the masses educate themselves and know who they are putting in office, we are doomed.

Bringer's assessment is right on the money!


Later......................Jon



reply posted on 25-10-2008 @ 10:31 PM by Possum Roadkill
Originally posted by Spooky Fox Mulder
Originally posted by Dermo
Originally posted by Spooky Fox Mulder
Originally posted by Dermo
Yea.. The Deluminati

Probably "terrorists" or anarchists.


I would NEVER support terrorists.

Terrorists are cowards who kill millions of innocent people, men women and children.

Terrorists are the most cowardly way to lead a war. If you want something done - do it a honest way, become a politician, start your own party, etc.



Are you serious??

The USA kills millions of people, the Nazi's killed millions of people, the old British empire killed millions of people, Stalin killed millions of people.

People who fought against the above were and are branded "terrorists".

Don't be so brainwashed.



No. I am not kidding, Dermo.

I absolutely do not support terrorists.


In matter of fact, I am in politics and I am a politician myself in my country. The only way to change the future is through politics - not through war and guns.

War only leads to hate. Hate leads to anger. Anger leads to suffering.


Nuff said.



Very well said. There are good politicians in every Country. I hope that you are one and I wish you well if you are.

To answer the original question, yes there is. We have many names. We lurk in places like this to gather information. Look around you. One out of every 200 people are with us now. Many do not even realize it though. They will understand in due time. Those of us who do understand have been here for a very long time. We are watching and waiting and learning. Soon it will be time.
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