reply to post by governmentsecrets
I see our existence in this universe both a matter of luck but also profound creation in which ALL the factors of the early universe were right for us
to eventually be here talking about it. if the universe spread out too fast right after the big bang, it would have expanded forever and matter would
have become so diffuse that no galaxies would have been able to form. If the universe spread out too slowly after the big bang, it would have simply
collapsed back onto itself. But everything occurred perfectly so that we live in a universe that we can rest at ease knowing is still expanding and
Without time, there could have never been a big-bang. Without time, we could never exist. I see time as more of a symptom of our dimensional reality
on this plane of existence. Time is directly linked to everything in our universe. Every particle and every atom. We know this because we know that
time can become warped by matter with extreme density like what creates a black hole (dead stars collapsing onto themselves under their own gravity).
Time is effected by gravity, and everything in our universe with mass has gravity. It is inescapable. We just happen to experience time in a very
specific way but there might even be intelligent beings that exist on timescales much faster, or slower, than ours.
An old episode of Star Trek voyager illustrated this quite well. For millions of years a civilization on this planet saw a star in the sky but what
they were seeing was actually voyager in their upper atmosphere. Later on they realized that it really was a ship, so they sent up astronauts to
figure out what was going on. I won't give away the show, but it made for a great episode and its a really mind-boggling (yet feasible) way of
looking at how time works.
For a while I've had an idea... I'll try to keep it as short as possible..
Scientists now know there are probably white holes out there as well as black holes. I hadn't read about this until last year. But 3 years ago I
had a really neat idea. The black hole/white hole connection is what is commonly referred to as a wormhole (a possible way for matter to be expelled
in a completely different part of the universe at a completely different time). And back a couple years ago I had a similar idea involving matter
becoming "warped" in the singularity of a black hole. If the matter can be accelerated or somehow "crushed" in a way that accelerates the
leftovers of that matter to faster than the speed of light, that matter might be "teleported" back in time to an earlier version of the universe
(possibly even creating the big-bang itself). Now, this is really interesting for a few reasons, and I don't think people fully appreciate what this
would really mean.
Now, take a breather..
Let's hypothesize, for a second, that a small fraction of super-massive black holes actually create wormholes to an earlier version of the universe
(let's say 7%). First of all, that is a massive number when you consider the entirety of the universe... Look at it this way..
The universe is still expanding, so any timeframe earlier than now is going to have a universe with much smaller total volume. In other words, go
back in time a few billion years, the universe will be much smaller than it is now.
Now, if those 7% of black holes all have white holes that existed billions of years ago, and those white holes are basically 'spewing' matter into
an early universe, things get much more interesting. If you consider all black holes that every existed and will ever exist, that 7% now becomes
exponentially larger. Each black hole would inevitably create a white hole that would eventually end up at a timeframe dependant upon the mass of the
black hole's singularity..
(The larger a black hole is, the further back in time it would send that "matter" I talked about earlier).
But here is the clincher...
If the universe was smaller and smaller the further you go back in time (eventually ending up at one tiny point in space as most scientists think the
big-bang really occurred) then those "white holes" we talked about earlier have a smaller and smaller universe to exist in the further back in time
you go. Perhaps the "nothing" that was here before the universe can't even hold matter of any kind for whatever bizarre reason. That would mean
that the white holes MUST exist in this smaller and smaller space the further back in time you go.
You end up at one tiny point of the universe where untold numbers of white holes are trying to pop into existence. Suddenly an explosion inevitably
occurs at a single point (the big-bang) thus this universe is created by the black holes that won't exist for another few million/billion years from
It would basically be black holes of today creating the very universe we live in today by having the capability of sending matter back in time through
these "wormholes" between black holes and white holes. Now, if you look at this really bizarre idea from the standpoint of linear time from the
big-bang on.. things would mostly depend on what particle physicists call "probabilities". As soon as the probability is inevitable for a future
black holes to exist, the white holes will pop into existence all at once..creating an explosive blast of unimaginable proporations..
I haven't heard any scientists talk about this theory yet.. And I am not a scientist nor have I studied physics or science much in college. But when
you look at time and existence from the standpoint of "everything is linked" then you really start to understand how time really operates.
Everything that is and everything that will ever be has, quite possibly, already been determined by quantum probability. And if you believe the
"electric universe" theories then you might say that God is not only a part of the universe but "God IS the universe, God IS time, God IS every
living thing that will ever exist in this universe and every atomic/subatomic particle that will ever exist.
[edit on 22-10-2008 by BlasteR]