Religion pacifies and molifies free thinking

i disagree. it's a belief system, not unlike your own. (not comparatively, just example -- you believe xyz. i believe wxyz. she believes mno. he believes jklm. etc)
besides, you've auto-assumed additional data that isn't true, and then stereotyped alot of people in the process. ya need to get a handle on that. for example, you keep saying religion, but you've previously described religion as a church institution. there's alot of people who don't go in church buildings or attend a specific religious creed but they still believe something. you fall into that category and so do i. why are you better than me? and don't say you aren't because you are the most condescending and insulting person i've encountered on ATS and i've encountered alot of people here.

Really enjoyed that. Thanks for posting. It resonates with me. I've also read Barbra Marcinek who speaks about this in a similar way.

Originally posted by undo

Religion pacifies and molifies free thinking

i disagree. it's a belief system, not unlike your own. (not comparatively, just example -- you believe xyz. i believe wxyz. she believes mno. he believes jklm. etc)
besides, you've auto-assumed additional data that isn't true, and then stereotyped alot of people in the process. ya need to get a handle on that. for example, you keep saying religion, but you've previously described religion as a church institution. there's alot of people who don't go in church buildings or attend a specific religious creed but they still believe something. you fall into that category and so do i. why are you better than me? and don't say you aren't because you are the most condescending and insulting person i've encountered on ATS and i've encountered alot of people here.

When did i say I was better than you ? You put those words in my mouth so you can prove I am a bigot .

I am saying this UNDO , its very simple . Religion corrupts minds with rigid thinking . YOU like so many cynical politicians and spin doctors then procced to twist ,distort and reinvent my words to re invent my position .
BECAUSE it threatens your dubious crediblity and logic .

You are scared because your religious prejudice has so undermined your crediblity .

You do what all religious and political fanatics do when their 'authority' is questioned . Fly off the handle with slur inuendo and lies . To cover your own .

This is why you will never find anything more than a marginal interest in your dubious interpretations of history .

Religion is blind faith with no proof . If thats where you get off ,go for it .
I dont . Thats all .

I remember all to well how you and Zorgon jumped on me out of the blue when I started posting here . Why ?
because someone else was getting more attention than you two HACKS.

Your both behaving like the primadonnas you in fact are .

a belief system is a belief system. doesn't matter who's at the head of it, as far as the phrase is concerned. if you believe the earth is god and that there are no sentient bipedal gods, that's your belief. if you believe the universe is god and there are no sentient bipedal gods, that's your belief. if you think you are god, that's your belief. if you think that the whole thing is just one big cosmic accident and there's no gods at all, that's your belief. you can believe it religiously or not. some people take it too far, which is what i think the complaint from reconpilot appears to be (and also, what he appears to be doing as well -- taking it too far, labelling people he doesn't know, insisting he does know, and pretending like you're attacking him if you defend yourself or point out how rude he is about his belief.

i've said it before and will say it again: we are all slaves. that has never changed and no amount of pretending that you're not a slave, no changing of the words, will make it not be true. as long as you are on this planet, you're working for someone else who is the regional owner of said real estate. it's just the nature of the universe.

Originally posted by undo
a belief system is a belief system. doesn't matter who's at the head of it, as far as the phrase is concerned. if you believe the earth is god and that there are no sentient bipedal gods, that's your belief. if you believe the universe is god and there are no sentient bipedal gods, that's your belief. if you think you are god, that's your belief. if you think that the whole thing is just one big cosmic accident and there's no gods at all, that's your belief. you can believe it religiously or not. some people take it too far, which is what i think the complaint from reconpilot appears to be (and also, what he appears to be doing as well -- taking it too far, labelling people he doesn't know, insisting he does know, and pretending like you're attacking him if you defend yourself or point out how rude he is about his belief.

i've said it before and will say it again: we are all slaves. that has never changed and no amount of pretending that you're not a slave, no changing of the words, will make it not be true. as long as you are on this planet, you're working for someone else who is the regional owner of said real estate. it's just the nature of the universe.

Is there anything more illogical than human logic ? No ,I dont think so .
I dont care to hang on belief .I prefer scientifically verifiable facts to superstition and the grovelling obeyance that charactersises your human mindset .
You can go on trying to paint me as long as you like but what really eats you is that your a 'slave' of your own need to worship jesus to feel fullfilled .
thats your choice Honey , but it aint mine .

Your prejudice and blind flailing accusations are SO TYPICAL of a brain washed human . An ENKIITE .

And the truth is your ranting accusations and desperate attempts to run my input down is a reflection of your fear.

What humans fear they try to destroy ,make it go away . If its not commies and blacks ,its the 'devil' or some other silly demon you will create so you have an excuse to kill ,murder and destroy .

YOU ARE a very dysfunctional species . Admit it . Which makes you such usefull slaves . And you even boast about it .

Unlike you , my family values freedom above 'belief' and blind religion .
FREEDOM BABY .

You justify enslavement if you must but using twisted logic to do so reminds me all to much of the masters that did this to you .

WHY do you insist on being a Victim ? . You actually get off on it .

yeah apparently these stargates are going to blow up and cause a semi mass extinction event,now thats a future ai cover story for a extinction event they cause if i ever heard one!.

ionospheres.......pulled down to sea level.......disguised as stargates blowing up....pfffff.

so recon pilot what do they want the earth to get rid of us

with so many lies comming from every direction how does one understand

Originally posted by the_spark
Very interesting read!!!! I am sure you spent a lot of time on this. I have just one question.

If you say Enki is the serpent in the Eden, then is he the satan?? If he tried helping the human to get the Blue stone then why the religions are contradicting him as a evil one?

Btw just to let you know Tara also means Star in Sanskrit. Try substituting terror with star; it may give you a different answer.

Cheers

I'm still on page 1 of reading, so forgive me if this has been said.

Satan is basically a teacher. Yes he does evil things, but he is a teacher. By being the evil, he highlights the good and points it out. Nothing makes a white dot stick out more than a black background.

If you read in Genesis, it says to become like god - knowing both good and evil. You can't actually understand good or evil until you have experienced both. Just like you can't understand hot or cold until you've experienced both. It is by experiencing both, that you become enlightened and gain knowledge.

To OP: Very good post. I enjoyed it very much, and the idea of a wormhole is much much more believable than the planet X theory(which can be debunked). I especially liked that you pointed out the importance of truth.

9/11 was a wake up call for me. Until then, I just trusted authority and never gave much thought to things. But then I started noticing that things didn't add up. And I could see the evil things being done. As much as I dislike the things that have happened, I have no doubt been awakened by the events. I would have to thank GWB for being the evil and pointing out the good to me.

Also, about the wormhole being closed and no longer being wormhole citizens as you put it. This is because the earth is a school, we are here to learn the different between good and evil. So the wormhole is closed to protect the rest of the universe. Otherwise, the evil we are learning will be allowed to spread across the entire universe.

I don't know if the wormhole opening up in 2012 is true, but it is very plausible and does meet requirements of many religions. I'm somewhat torn, because I can very much see it as something that opens up in the consciousness. Which also goes along with someone coming out and enlightening everyone on earth. IE: Our souls are consciousness and what we actually are, so the wormhole is more of a big expansion in our consciousness. Which is also in line with certain Mayan "experiences", where people very much describe a wormhole type effect in consciousness.

Great topic, the philosophy is very solid.

Thank you all for your posts and opinions even if they were conflicting with the OP. This is why I can't get enough of this website!

Another thing that I heard that sort of ties in with this is that the reason the government always asks us to turn in our gold is because it is very good at deflecting radiation from the sun. Astronauts use it in their helmets and so on. I heard David Ike say something to the effect of he thinks they are using it to build some kind of shuttle (I use that term loosely, not necessarily a space shuttle) for when they can open the worm hole. It's purely speculation but still strange..

I have been thinking about the whole 2012 thing, specifically about the "alignment" factor.

I've been having doubts about it. Mostly because it's mostly based on the wobble of the earth, rather than the earth's actual position in the galaxy. From a physical standpoint, it doesn't make sense because the alignment is mostly illusion from perspective.

But what would make more sense is that the stars and the positions were used as a universal way of telling time. Calendars come and change, have adjustments and so on. But if you use the position of the stars, then you have a universal way of telling time over long periods, which can not be altered.

And from that, you could more logically state that what they are saying is that when the stars are in this position, it will be the time when it is opened etc.

Now we know we are currently in Pisces the fish. And we all know we are entering Aquarius. I think the point at which this transition is official would be on the 2012 date, as that is center of the percussion and the calander. The end of a 25,000 year "year". If you even the astrological signs out, then each age is about 2150 years long, but that does keep in line with how we have different length in months, and how the signs themselves are handled based on position and size, and you have center in 2012, doesn't make sense why center would be in the middle of a sign.

So I think it makes more sense if it is a way of telling time than of something physical.