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RUnnig On Water.

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posted on Oct, 21 2008 @ 07:21 AM
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You know, u can run almost any engine off water?
its no longer a dream, certain sites sell "kits"
to convert you regular engine to run on water,
It basically takes water , shoots electricity into it, and produces a burnable gas, i have the instructions, all parts purchased at a water pipe store and RADIO SHACK. Its Cheap and not to hard to do.

You will not see this on the news, because simply put, if every one did this, oil companies would fall with then days. and everything related to fossil fuels would drop . huge loss of money to the big money makers,

Look into this, it is real , and the Media and every one else is being quiet about it.




posted on Oct, 21 2008 @ 07:55 AM
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It creates whats called "Brown's Gas". HHO, and no you can't run the engine purely on this as the contraption cannot produce enough quick enough for an engine to run entirely on it. Yes you can add it to the air/fuel mixture but any gains are non-existant for fuel economy and power. I have yet to see one test showing an improvement in horsepower or fuel economy.



posted on Oct, 21 2008 @ 08:47 AM
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yes you could run a car on browns gas or HH0, all it is is electrolysis of water that makes this gas, however to get enough of it to make a difference , you need to put in more energy to make the gas than you would use just burning gasoline.

I hear claims all the time that some guy has perfected the process and can do it with less energy.. however have not seen any documented proof..

Now you want to really run a car on other fuel get a old Benz, a 300d and if your in a warm climate, just dump vegetable oil in the tank , and drive.. I'm serious.

Look up Rudolf Diesel, he invented the diesel engine to run on peanut oil, and to this day most diesel will run on vegetable oil, the more computer controlled the worse they are.. however, i have done 2 conversions on my vehicles and use a heated tank and fuel lines as I'm in cold climate , other wise the oil get to thick to run it.. but it does work and actually the Benz i have runs smoother on vegetable oil than on diesel.

Litteraly a diesel can actually run on almost any oil (plan or animal) if you can get it to be a liquid and flow easy through the fuel system, you can even run it on hydrolic oil or motor oil or even crude oil. Many of the oil tankers actually ran on the crude in there holds.

Now the problem is veggie oil is more expensive than gas or diesel, unless you use used oil and filter it so it clean.. thats what most people do, however it is a fair amount of work and messy.



posted on Oct, 21 2008 @ 08:52 AM
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a taxi company in las vegas runs all of there taxi's on water, im buying an old ford ranger to test it out, purchase of parts comes out around 300$ , . the water produces hydrogen gas witch the car runs on.



posted on Oct, 21 2008 @ 09:01 AM
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Originally posted by E-ville
yes you could run a car on browns gas or HH0, all it is is electrolysis of water that makes this gas, however to get enough of it to make a difference , you need to put in more energy to make the gas than you would use just burning gasoline.

I hear claims all the time that some guy has perfected the process and can do it with less energy.. however have not seen any documented proof..

Now you want to really run a car on other fuel get a old Benz, a 300d and if your in a warm climate, just dump vegetable oil in the tank , and drive.. I'm serious.

Look up Rudolf Diesel, he invented the diesel engine to run on peanut oil, and to this day most diesel will run on vegetable oil, the more computer controlled the worse they are.. however, i have done 2 conversions on my vehicles and use a heated tank and fuel lines as I'm in cold climate , other wise the oil get to thick to run it.. but it does work and actually the Benz i have runs smoother on vegetable oil than on diesel.

Litteraly a diesel can actually run on almost any oil (plan or animal) if you can get it to be a liquid and flow easy through the fuel system, you can even run it on hydrolic oil or motor oil or even crude oil. Many of the oil tankers actually ran on the crude in there holds.

Now the problem is veggie oil is more expensive than gas or diesel, unless you use used oil and filter it so it clean.. thats what most people do, however it is a fair amount of work and messy.


This would not be a problem if the energy used comes from nuclear, wind, ocean or other type of energy. I say make nuke plants and then make this HHO and get off oil.



posted on Oct, 21 2008 @ 09:06 AM
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I have heard of people converting to vegtable oil and it does work, but in Britain you get heavily fined, as far as Im aware.



posted on Oct, 21 2008 @ 09:08 AM
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well, don't believe me, i just saying , that if everyone switched, it would be a huge blow to the people who sell crude oil and many other organizations.



posted on Oct, 21 2008 @ 11:32 AM
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Lets us know how the kit you bought works out.

I looked into it a while back. But I do not think the technology has advanced enough to create the shear volume of HHO that you would need for a car or truck.

There alot of companies cashing in on "kits" that dont work.



posted on Oct, 21 2008 @ 11:51 AM
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Originally posted by LetsPlayFeedTheGater
well, don't believe me, i just saying , that if everyone switched, it would be a huge blow to the people who sell crude oil and many other organizations.


I believe that you can run cars off HHO, however it takes more energy that the gasoline's energy, and as for using renewable or nuke power to do this sure but it would be far more efficient to take that electricity and make a total electric drive train..

Tesla has made a great example of how this can be a very nice fast long range electric car .. yet Chevy etc. cant get electric to go over 40 miles on electric only, The Tesla electric car company's electric can do 300+ miles on electric , also look at the aptera for more great examples of long range electrics, these new cars are built diffrently, there thinking outside the steel box on wheels concept to achieve the holly grail of electric cars , long range electrics.

a internal combustion engine is only about 40% efficient, they create lots of heat to make there power.. electric motors are over 90% efficient, they make little heat in the process by comparison to a internal combustion engine.

So if your going to use electricity to power a car do it directly not to make browns gas (very inefficient) then put browns gas into a 30-40% efficient internal combustion engine..

DO you understand what I'm saying here.. the internal combustion engine along is so inefficient it will never compare to a electric drive system no matter what fuel is used.



posted on Oct, 21 2008 @ 01:48 PM
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Originally posted by E-ville
yes you could run a car on browns gas or HH0, all it is is electrolysis of water that makes this gas, however to get enough of it to make a difference , you need to put in more energy to make the gas than you would use just burning gasoline.


You can make HHO with solar panels. This would mean you don't have to pay anything to create it, except water. Of course you need a decent solar setup and electrolyzer and so forth. The real problem is the storage medium. To hold the equivalent of gas takes thousands of times more space which is impractical. Bob Lazar solved this problem using a metal hydride tank, but the material to build the tank is restricted for sale. He's been running his corvette of HHO for decades.. Lucky guy. Of course they will never let this type of stuff onto the market as long as they have the means to do so. They will be introducing fuel cell cars, this way they can covert existing gasoline pumps right to hydrogen and sell you the fuel again.

Personally I think its completely feasible to have electric cars that run off batteries, but unfortunately these oil companies buy up the battery patents and that's all she wrote...I've seen some ideas of battery modules which can be swapped out when the charge depletes, but there just seems to be a block wall killing anything that doesn't make a huge profit. Until we get rid of the greed we will pay the price..



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