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Originally posted by juniperberry
To put things in context, Victoria BC has a really big homeless problem. It's because these people are coming from other parts of the country to this nice temperate zone so when they do stay outside, they don't freeze as fast.
A good portion of these people are homeless by choice. Another good portion are homeless because they can't get along with their parents/families. When you see young people sitting on the street in boots and leathers that even YOU can't afford, that shows a lack of respect for real homeless people and merely adds tot he misconceptions.
Canada doesn't have the housing problem of the US as of yet. Foreclosures are not going through the roof.
But when these people migrate to Victoria, there isn't enough housing to go around. Buildings aren't built in a day, you know.
They would have been better off to stay where they had come from. Most of these homeless are not from Victoria.
Did you know that the Premier of Alberta, Ralph Kline at the time, gave all their homeless a one way ticket out of town? Guess where they all went.
Try to understand the context before making broad statements about how bad things are.
Originally posted by bringthelight
When I watched the video I missed the location. I just thought it was interesting and figured I would share. Apparently Leo has a deep seeded hatred for the homeless in general
Originally posted by leo123
Originally posted by Dock6
Yes, where are the homeless supposed to go --- into the subways and forests so the more privileged don't have the distress of seeing them ?
America the great ? America the wealthy ?
If so wealthy, why does America have so many homeless .. and it didn't begin yesterday
How many billions have been spent murdering Iraqis ?
While in the US, so many don't have a home or job ?
Is it making sense to anyone ?
This thread is not about your US it is about Victoria Canada and a recent Court decision to allow life long bums to set up tent cities in our parks.
Further, you need to know posts from bringthelight are outright LIES and I welcome anyone to debate me about the truth here locally.
The court ruled Tuesday the bylaw deprives the homeless of life, liberty and security in violation of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms....
Irene Faulkner, a lawyer for the group that challenged the law, said the judge decided a sleeping bag or blanket isn't enough to protect people from the elements when sleeping outside in Victoria or anywhere on the West Coast.
Faulkner said the ruling also says that sleeping in a tent or under another structure is not a public safety issue but rather a basic human dignity.
In her ruling, Justice Carol Ross found that due to insufficient capacity in Victoria's shelters, hundreds of homeless people have no choice but to sleep outside.
In 2001, the B.C. Ministry of Social Housing released a document reviewing the research on the relationship between homelessness and the health,social services, and criminal justice systems and estimated the cost of homelessness to governments …
The specific objectives for this exploratory research are:
* To present a cost analysis of homelessness in terms of the British Columbia health care, social services and criminal justice systems.
* To analyse whether the provision of adequate and affordable housing is a preventive cost to the government.
Conclusions and Recommendations
The prevention approach to homelessness has proved to be more cost-effective than the emergency or reactive approach for this small sample of individuals. Focusing on preventing the use of costly government funded health care, criminal justice and social services through the provision of supportive housing for homeless people makes good sense from a financial perspective. This approach also has the benefit of improving the quality of life and well-being of homeless people. The interviews and service records suggest that in most cases, housing had a positive impact on these peopleâ€™s lives.