You just don't go around burying weapons, unless you're up to something. It's like telling the police, nevermind those old grenades I buried in a box behind my house. Some people are just too stupid...

Yes there was a Large White box containing Artillery War heads capable of carring Sargan Gas. Apparently these were found in a Corner of the bunker covered in bird droppings, apparently forgotten. Iraqi officials seamed to be very quick in making a press confrence stating the they had either misplaced or didn't know of it's existance.
All Bulls@*t!!!

The Media Here (Oregon) is reporting that the Warheads are in prestine condition..! I have not heard any one report that they are covered in bird #..

But that is niether here or there..No one misplaces war heads (either artillary or airborne..)..But i guess you believe what you want..!

Bomslang

The Americans appeared to have misplaced vials of bubonic plague only the other day and you all appear to be getting into a lather about 25 year old artillary shells.

But I know you're all desperate for the big off.So here is a little teaser for you.How did the cases get bird sh!t on them if they were in an underground bunker?I would suggest we at ATS send our own bird sh!t specialists,Freemason and MT69 down to Iraq to check out the cases and give the Bush Administration the final proof that they need to start World War 3.

Who said they are 25 years old?? all the reports say they are in excellent condition not & found in a dusty old bunker covered in birdsh*t.

These warheads were not in Iraqs earlier weapons declaration to the UN and therefore highly suspect, you can say they are as old as you want but weapons is weapons.

"Ok, I'll like to see how the left-wing nuts against the US's claims are going to brush this aside... "

wow this is amazing.
I really don't think I've ever seen such an amazing demonstration of how demonizing a person can make peoples logic boards go screwy.

they found empty war heads that used to contain chemical agents from a time, probably just after the gulf war.

The logical explenation is "good lord he actually did what we told him and set about dismanteling his chemical and biological weapons"

~blink~ how can anyone see it any other way?!?!

If you tell a kid to empty his pockets go away come back and check to see if he's emptyed them, and find them empty, would you then think "hmmmmmm looks like the kids started putting things in his pockets again"
?!?!?!

Regardless of what he has, doesn't have, etc. For over ten years he's pretty much ignored every single UN resolution that was a condition for the end of the Gulf War. For that alone, it's time to end this regime...

and after him?
and after them?
and after that?

what is this US fixation on solving problems by blowing things up.

Lupe i am not sure about your Millitary Experiance..but NO one keeps there Weapons loaded..ie..you dont story the chem bio agent in the war head..rather you ladd them up just prior to use...

Besides that every one is gonna Arm chair quater back this to death..IF the great SH is such a angel why was this not disclosed..why was there such a up roar by the Iraqis when the UN inspectors wanted to check this certain place out..

As for the B. plague...some idiot distroyed the vials..and in fear for his job (once again what a moron) he lied about the daily count..Last i heard he is being charged with a felony..As well he should be!

Boomslang

This looks like some Iraqi soldier has overlooked them when they were moving the bulk of th stash. Bearing in mind Saddam has had months to hide his WMD's before the UN went in.
No doubt the soldier responsible probably isn't going to be breathing for much longer.

"Lupe i am not sure about your Millitary Experiance..but NO one keeps there Weapons loaded..ie..you dont story the chem bio agent in the war head..rather you ladd them up just prior to use... "

I have no military experience other than reading and friends in the military, but it seems to me that Bush has stated that this isn't a smoking gun, Blair has stated this isn't a smoking gun and if it was found that these contained chemicals at one time but don't now, one cant sumise that he has chemical weapons, its the conclusion people want to jump to but its not one borne out by the facts, those being that these were once chemical rockets and are not any longer which complys with what we have asked him to do.

If we find a bunker full of canisters ready to put in the rockets then cool. Until then this looks more like disarmament which is what he's claimed and what our weapons inspectors are currently stating is true.

"Besides that every one is gonna Arm chair quater back this to death..IF the great SH is such a angel why was this not disclosed..why was there such a up roar by the Iraqis when the UN inspectors wanted to check this certain place out."

No one has said he's an angel this is a myth perpitrated by people who can't make the distinction between those who want proof before we start killing people that we actually have to and those who support saddam.

I'm of the former group.

Saddam Hussein has used chemical weapons before; he likes using them and no doubt he will use them again.
This is a dictator who loves to have the power to kill thousands or even millions of people at his fingertips.
A leopard doesn't change it's spots.

we don't LIKE blowing things up, but we've tried diplomacy to get him to live up to his own agreements for over a decade. I for one, think that is MORE than sufficient time to realize that this whacko only understands one thing...force. So, that's what we plan to do. Many of you would prefer the alternative? 10 more years of playing hide and seek, while he increases his military even more and raises the threat to his neighbors? No, it's time to take out the trash...and the truck is a comin'....

i've watched as the weapons were trotted out in front of the world media and it seemed a little fishy. the timing couldn't be better as military build-up in the gulf has almost reached Rummy's target.

still, i don't think anyone really thought Saddam had actually disclosed all of his WMD data to the inspectors. the question is will this constitute a "material breach". I don't think it does by itself but on top of some of the other things, like the shabby reporting, it maybe enough to tip the scales in favor of war.

Maybe if the inspections are allowed to continue there would be some serious findings and we will actually be able to disarm them without force--which i thought was the goal--but at this point, i'm doubtful that will happen.

...and the idiot parade goes maraching on.

Next, the left-wing clowns will be making up excuses for North Korea as soon as Saddam is gone, just like the idiots did for Hilter before the US joined WWII.

Saphronia your quite right, the media makes of this what it will and we the public are suppossed to swallow it whole...

Hans Blix is downplaying the shells found and further proving he's a pansy playing to the UN and media for fame and money.

It's amazing that the US led the way to create the UN which now is used against us by peaceniks and other countries (France, Germany, Russia and China) with secret motives.

[Edited on 17-1-2003 by MT69]

Hans Blix is in a well difficult position here, he could potentially start WWIII, I`d be cautious in that position. I don`t think he is anyones pansy just aware of his moral obligations unlike Blair and Bush

Hans Blix the last time he was in Iraq, said they were CLEAN. It's in HIS best interest to keep dragging this out for a paycheck.

He's a UN bureaucrat told that finding the weapons will be the end of his work. Do you honestly think he will want to end his work with the fame and money he's gaining from every trip to Iraq???

All you have to do is note that he allowed the Iraqis to stand behind him during a "briefing" as if they were part of the UN delegation. He's not supposed to be their friend, he's there to dig up FACTS on them and then go back to the UN.

No I just think he does n`t want blood on his hands. Saying he is doing this for a paycheck seems a bit too cynical for me.

Not disagreeing with you on what he said last he was there just can`t remember, anyone got any sources on that?

Think your assertion that because he allowed them to stand behind him that they are buddies is very lame though. Bit more good old cold hard fact needed for for an arguement like that