reply to post by Symer
I had apologized prior for the way I phrased that and ask only that you please beg my pardon for what I view as Phrased Appropriately American
Involvement in foreign wars and situations we never had any place being involved with in from the onset
IF you can forgive the way I came off and take a moment to really look at the whole picture, step outside yourself and look beyond the debacle that is
our previous administration.
You could see that this entire situation for Us as American people has come about from our involvement in WW2
I'm not going to be ignorant and say, that there wee not forces in America that got involved in that war for reasons of power and money.
But it would be equally ignorant to say that any of this would be going on right now if we weren't drawn into political situations that arose because
of what went on in EUROPE
The Military Industrial complex has the power it does, to flex not just globally but Against US who get insulted everyday because of the devastation
in Europe after WW2, the UN exists in part because of that war, our position in on the security council is there because of WW2, the Cold War and all
the money we burned away happened because of it, our involvement in Nam and Korea in part due to those events... and NATO, us in a position to arm
against Russia and No Internal Military of any value in Europe to oppose it...
all because of what Europe did and the war that was fought between 1939 and 1945
and frankly, yes we have a crappy education system now, we fought a cold war to defend Europe for... almost 50 Years, we spent ridiculous amounts of
our resources for Europe, we have a Military completely sucking up tons and tons of the American tax payers dollars
and still, a decade after the end of the cold war, Europe alone even as an EU couldn't stand up to Russia if it chose to invade and...the last time
it moved west was Under 60 days ago
and what does Europe actually do, do Europeans defend us No...it's CONSTANT Insults and regular opposition
so is that hard hard to understand why I would give a Vehement NO to would Europeans Help us against the Tyrants that were created Defending Europe
NO it is not...
If you want to bash America... do the one thing that would Help Us, do the thing that your too greedy to do
Stand up and get your nations to withdraw from Nato
Prove me wrong,
Form that EU army, spend you tax dollars to build it, cut that money from your education systems, cut that money from your health care and let us as
Citizens not our Military but as a People, be free from the Burden of being the only ones capable of standing down the Russians
The other monster power created by your insane war on your continent
Europeans do Nothing more than bash America... come out from Under the nuclear umbrella, build that Navy, stand on your own
The excuse of the Money we spent all these years to defend Europe through decades of Russian occupation of East Germany, Invasions into eastern
This was the tool they used to create the monstrosity that is our Military, that owns us, that eats a trillion US dollars every year
So WOULD Europe help US... NO, because you Can, right now with out ever sending a man over even...
You can send us home... you can drop out and end Nato
You can decide what to do in the Middle East ENGLAND is responsible for the creation of Isreal another ball in our lap...in YOUR Hemisphere
Europe is threatened perhaps by Islam not us... it's your decision...
why are we in any of these places why is my life sucked into all this war...
When America has no Natural Enemy in our sphere of Influence?
A Failure of the people of Europe to cooperate for the first hald of the previous century, your wars and your current inability or unwillingness to
pick up the sword in your won defense
And, my people have died for yours not vice versa, not ever beyond some meager and unsupported support in wars that are NOT in our hemisphere.
The REALITY, we are 95% of Nato, the rest all of Europe is nothing more than a token gesture and even Russia... isn't actually our problem it's
and again, YES, our leaders have taken advantage of it... agreed, but WE suffer for it as much as any body and all that is done is that insults fly..
Trust me, the one thing we can not and will not do... If Europe sends us packing, we will not stay by force
So do it
But you wont because in the end it's easier if it's us involved, our money our social programs gutted while Europeans enjoy, less work hrs, better
quality of life and better social programs
and that is IT, all of it, Europe is why America has this kind of power, because you wont actually defend yourselves and if we left and Russia came
rolling Just like you did with Germany and just like you did when it was your lives... the call for our lives will come...
and Europeans sit and insult Americans, constantly while we pay for decades for your defense
Deal with Russia, Deal with Israel send us HOME... no one is on our coast or borders to bother us, we don't LIKE our LEADERS Either
Deal with the reality that YOU not US are squeezed between Russia and Islam
You need a defense, you need to help us, for once in a real way in all these years, our People, end the spending and the rationalization for it, tell
America and do it with the ability to defend yourselves that...we aren't needed as the policeman any more
Because the Reality is, a similar situation exists with japan, another country that sits next to China and Russia with a Great Economy and a Great
quality of life...
and a constitution that says it can't have an army lol
We are still in a way paying, reparations...to LOL Germany and Japan for WW2 and we didn't want to be in either fight...
Share the expense, dis empower the USA's Military need
and all this goes away... for US the American People
So, would you help US the people of America? NO you refuse to everyday, we are broke, overworked, hate our government too and you laugh and throw
insults and have no real military of your own... not conventionally, not one that could stand against Russia
Help us...please do, send us home...
Do the thing that we can not do with out a revolution, stop allowing it, stop being a part of it, defend yourselves and get us out of the picture let
us return to being Americans again.
Do it NOW before there is no America... but I know it won't happen, it's just to easy on the average European this way, it won't happen until it's
too late, exactly how Hitler happened to your continent