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Originally posted by tmbandt
reply to post by jthomas
Ahhh, critical thinking... Yeah, that's listening to the official story and buying it hook, line and sinker? I was once there too man.
At threat of derailing this thread, what would you like to discuss? As in, what part of the official story, to you, holds an absolute truth to it?
See, I don't delve into the building collapse, nor the holograms, nor the "what hit the pentagon" stuff.
I'm more into the real questions, like who profited? Who lied? And so forth.
Originally posted by IvanZana
There is enough information to charge some of you under the RICO act.
Please read more here an educate yourself on the art of propaganda being used on conspiracy sites that seek truth. www.911disinformation.com...
There are many methods of disinformation from spreading lies to setting up straw men. There is a whole lexicon of disinfo tactics and it can be overwhelming to the novice like myself. For some background on some of the methods of disinfo check out this site. Fintan Dunn has done a lot of reporting on the CIA fake internet sites here.
In the case of 9/11 disinformation I've found that they use three main tactics:
1. Ignore it: For most Americans, if it's not on TV it doesn't exist. By studiously ignoring an issue the media can make it disappear. This has been spectacularly effective in the case of 9/11. Almost universally; main stream media avoid this topic like the plague.
2. Infiltrators: An agent of the perpetrators pretends to be a truth seeker. He publishes some statements supporting 9/11 truth (usually on some minor topic) and, gains some notoriety (with the help of other agents and insiders) He then discredits himself by coming out with some outrageous statements or actions like saying he is an alien abductee or UFOlogist etc. thereby throwing discredit onto the whole 9/11 truth topic.
3. Attacking straw men: This classic debate tactic is to re-frame the opponents argument making it seem that some weak point or minor issue is crucial and then shooting it down. The aircraft "pods" are the best example of this tactic.
The government cannot possibly create a 9/11 like they are some gods lol
Originally posted by IvanZana
You are under the delusion that justice seekers...
... have to prove that 911 was an 'inside job' . We dont.
The government has failed to prove the conspiracy that Bin Laden was involved in 911. The fbi admited it had no evidence that bin Laden was involved in the attacks of 911.
In order to be listed on the FBI Ten Most Wanted Fugitive list, the suspect must have been indicted for the crime. To indict Bin Laden formally for the 9/11 attacks would require presenting evidence in a court of law; such evidence linking Bin Laden to 9/11 would include intelligence sources, and Al-Qaeda detainees. Making such sources (and methods) publicly known, perhaps isn't advised. In the Zacarias Moussaoui case, a big deal was made over access to detainee witnesses and about handling evidence from other intelligence sources.
In all, the 9/11 attacks were viewed as an "act of war", and the U.S. government is responding accordingly. During the Clinton administration, terrorism was handled more as a matter of law enforcement. This change in how terrorism is handled may be yet another reason why the U.S. government has not bothered to formally indict Bin Laden for the 9/11 attacks.
Regarding this matter, FBI officials told the Washington Post:
"There's no mystery here," said FBI spokesman Rex Tomb. "They could add 9/11 on there, but they have not because they don't need to at this point. . . . There is a logic to it." 
The FBI also maintains a list of "Most Wanted Terrorists". This list is accompanied by a note:
The alleged terrorists on this list have been indicted by sitting Federal Grand Juries in various jurisdictions in the United States for the crimes reflected on their wanted posters. Evidence was gathered and presented to the Grand Juries, which led to their being charged. The indictments currently listed on the posters allow them to be arrested and brought to justice. Future indictments may be handed down as various investigations proceed in connection to other terrorist incidents, for example, the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001. 
A document released by the U.K. government, Responsibility for the terrorist atrocities in the United States, 11 September 2001 presents facts that link Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda to the 9/11 attacks.
The U.K. document further notes:
This document does not purport to provide a prosecutable case against Usama Bin Laden in a court of law. Intelligence often cannot be used evidentially, due both to the strict rules of admissibility and to the need to protect the safety of sources. But on the basis of all the information available HMG is confident of its conclusions as expressed in this document.
The official story has been debunked long ago.