posted on Oct, 22 2008 @ 02:10 AM
I've been extremely hesitant to enter this topic. BigWhammy brought up excellent points and arguments but ultimately seemed to have trouble accepting
alternative views and theories. SimplyNoone entered the topic fueled by her beliefs that homosexuality was wrong but never once said anything negative
personally about homosexuals as individuals or a group, and has been insulted and ridiculed by the same people who previously defended their sexual
orientation while being insulted and ridiculed. I also can't believe someone really said "It is too bad gays didn't reproduce more often. The
intelligence of society would probably rise a few points." while arguing about the equality between homo- and hetero-sexuals. There have been
many hypocritical posts throughout the whole thread, and yes, from both sides.
Before the labels of "bigot", "ignorant" and "homophobe" get thrown around as easily as they normally do, I'll begin by taking my "defense
positions". I am straight, I am not religious, I've read the entire thread, I have a lesbian friend (and she's not fauxmo-sexual either). I have
nothing against gay people or gay sex. I am undecided on gay marriage. I personally believe homosexuality is unnatural but harmless. And I also want
to say that I am very proud that ATS is allowing this discussion to exist and I am also happy that there are quite a few that are still being
respectful to others in this thread.
I believe homosexuality is unnatural. I can understand why that offends some, but it doesn't have to be taken negatively because it does not imply
that it is a bad thing. We naturally reproduce sexually and also enjoy sex as a pleasure. Our natural instincts tell us to seek out an attractive mate
of the opposite sex to reproduce and sometimes we form familial and sexual bonds with them. Since humans of the same sex cannot reproduce together, it
is unnatural, in that way, as a homosexual, something is "broke". You are not wired correctly. But I have to also look at the other part of this,
sex being a pleasuring activity. The gain from this being the fulfilling of sexual urges and it can also relieve stress. Because the same sex can
enjoy sex with each other, there wouldn't be anything wrong with being a homosexual. It could very well be that a homosexual has just evolved to let
go of those instincts. But in that theory, it would make more sense for one to be bisexual, in order to increase our field of possible sexual
I believe that our orientation is wired from birth, and I don't think environments and experiences would influence orientation very much. However, I
wouldn't technically say that you are born gay or straight, since children do not have a sexual attraction to each other.. instead it makes more
sense to me to say that you are programmed to be a homosexual or heterosexual (or bisexual). While it IS a choice to have sex and who you have sex
with, I don't believe it is a choice when it comes to what gender you are attracted to. Whether its genetics or an imbalance, I don't know. I DO
know that I was born with autism, and I certainly didn't choose it. In this way I feel I can empathize with homosexuals a little.
BigWhammy made several valid points that were dismissed early on that I want to bring back. Anal sex is more predominate in homosexual sex than
heterosexual sex, the tissue of the anus is thin and can be torn much more easily than the thick tissue of the vagina, which makes the partner more
susceptible to diseases and infections passed on through bodily fluids. Also, the possibility of pregnancy is not there so homosexual partners may be
less willing to use condoms. I don't know why it was disputed, it is factually true that the majority of HIV/AIDS carriers are male homosexuals. You
can check with the CDC on that.
I also wanted to address the issue of large communities not having a significantly increased homosexual presence. I could be mistaken but it looked
like a few didn't understand the reason it was being addressed. It's in reference to the theory that homosexuality is an evolutionary response to
halt overpopulation, and that if it were true, we should see a significant increase in homosexual presence in highly populated areas. I don't know if
anyone has actually checked the numbers on that or not but I'd be interested in finding out. I thought the theory was really interesting.
I just wanted to end this post by saying that the whole intention of everything I've written is to add to the idea that homosexuality is unnatural.
In no way do I mean to offend or have hopes of "converting" someone.