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My UK Friends, Freedom Not Fear

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posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 03:11 PM
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It's time to make a stand, not just in the UK, but in every country that the NWO is making their move in.

Take to the streets my brothers and sisters, take to the streets and unite in the name of love & peace, do not fight aggressively with the pawns of the NWO, but passively make a stand against the would-be oppressors.

It is time we reminded the governments of every country who they actually work for & represent.




posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 03:29 PM
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The UK was taken over a long time ago, we should focus on those nations who still have a chance of freedom.

The UK is perhaps one of socialisms few genuine successes, successful at taking a country over that is.

I think you could reasonably define the Anglo Saxon race as disarmed, disillusioned, and disappearing.



posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 04:35 PM
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No country is lost to the emerging NWO, we still have the chance to take back these countries, and wipe the NWO off the face of this Earth.

If we unite ourselves in body, mind, and soul; there is no such thing as impossible. We must make a stand against those who wish to enslave us, and forever bind us in tyranny, the fate of our species depends on it.



posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 04:42 PM
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This link below is a clear cut example of the governments reasoning that we should be forced to show ID to buy a mobile phone. Obvious timely release for promoting the governments agenda here by the way, one thing I learned from my history class at school, read between the lines!

www.bbc.co.uk

Well these terrorists would STILL have carried out the attacks even if they had to show ID to purchase a mobile phone, they were so closed off to the rest of the world.

A closed mind is a weapon of mass destruction - but how do people get this way in the first place? If we discovered this then perhaps there would be no terrorists and no need for the government database.

[edit on 20-10-2008 by freeradical]

[edit on 20-10-2008 by freeradical]



posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 04:44 PM
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posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 07:54 PM
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Everything in the Universe is, imo, a manifestation of one or both of the possible vibrational energies, love, which a positive creational force, and fear, which is a negative destructive force, or lack of force, entropy.

Why is this relevant? Well, bare with me. What is happening in the UK right now is the manifestation of a fear based mindset, where people are scared by supposed mass criminality into subjecting to mass espionage. Now, if people change their mindset, become more helpfull, trustfull, positive, in a word loving, then things will change, because even if these NWO folks do get their control grid up it won't be used for their purposes and might actually catch a few criminals, although chances are loving people will just abandon the control based mindset and the system will rott in place. The NWO guys know this, and this is why the news is a constant barrage of fear fear fear. This is why love is constantly being perverted in mass media. This is why how people interact is being attacked. This is in reality an attack at the core fabric of not only how people interact but also of the very universe, imo.

And the solution is simple. Just find love in your hearts. Law of atraction will do the rest.



posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 08:24 PM
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I think the brits lost their spirit after the Feb. 03 London 2 million man march produced nothing. Remember how it was hi-jacked by the fox hunters stealing the thunder the preceding week and getting all the attention. That whole thing made me ill.



posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 08:50 PM
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I can't decide yet if it is laughable or sickening that this is actually being implemented considering that Identity theft is so bloody rampant in the UK amongst organized criminals. If they outlaw privacy and freedom of speech and information then only the outlaws will have privacy and freedom of information.



posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 09:09 PM
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Here's something that I find ironically laughable..

We have anti-terror legislations, surveillance of all electronic communications, ID required to purchase cell-phones or SIM cards...all in the name of protection of the society and state from terrorist acts.

Yet at this time of year, I am able to walk into any number of shops and stores, and without ID, challenge, or checks/restrictions on cumulative purchases and walk out with low-grade explosives to detonate as a celebration of November 5th






posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 09:21 PM
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Originally posted by WERE_ALL_GONA_DIE
Hello all british people from the Republic of ireland
I'm making this thread because what i see in the UK sickens me and i hate to see my British/whelsh/Scottish bredren in such a horrible situation

Your government is building a police state. In today's Times, we learn that we will need to show Your passports when buying mobile phones. This is real.

"Passports will be needed to buy mobile phones"
www.timesonline.co.uk...
(I raged while reading this article.)


Man, I've been involved in a triangulation situation, because a group of us went into the countryside. The police 'anticipated' where we were before we had set up the speakers. The police were very good and shut us down without searching us, but that is now.




"Everyone who buys a mobile telephone will be forced to register their identity on a national database under government plans to extend massively the powers of state surveillance."



"Government will spy on every call and e-mail"
www.timesonline.co.uk...


That's what's so fascinating, no one trusts the government, but no one trusts the government not to lose data either. And still they pile on.



Ministers are considering spending up to £12 billion on a database to monitor and store the internet browsing habits, e-mail and telephone records of everyone in Britain.


They've also fiddled my medical record, still in contest.


Here are two other articles of relevance.



There is no relevance to this government other than to damn us for doing what they do not like.



posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 09:28 PM
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Originally posted by redled

Originally posted by WERE_ALL_GONA_DIE
Hello all british people from the Republic of ireland
I'm making this thread because what i see in the UK sickens me and i hate to see my British/whelsh/Scottish bredren in such a horrible situation

Your government is building a police state. In today's Times, we learn that we will need to show Your passports when buying mobile phones. This is real.

"Passports will be needed to buy mobile phones"
www.timesonline.co.uk...
(I raged while reading this article.)


Man, I've been involved in a triangulation situation, because a group of us went into the countryside. The police 'anticipated' where we were before we had set up the speakers. The police were very good and shut us down without searching us, but that is now.




"Everyone who buys a mobile telephone will be forced to register their identity on a national database under government plans to extend massively the powers of state surveillance."



"Government will spy on every call and e-mail"
www.timesonline.co.uk...


That's what's so fascinating, no one trusts the government, but no one trusts the government not to lose data either. And still they pile on.



Ministers are considering spending up to £12 billion on a database to monitor and store the internet browsing habits, e-mail and telephone records of everyone in Britain.


They've also fiddled my medical record, still in contest.


Here are two other articles of relevance.



There is no relevance to this government other than to damn us for doing what they do not like.



posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 09:29 PM
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Originally posted by redled

Originally posted by WERE_ALL_GONA_DIE
Hello all british people from the Republic of ireland
I'm making this thread because what i see in the UK sickens me and i hate to see my British/whelsh/Scottish bredren in such a horrible situation

Your government is building a police state. In today's Times, we learn that we will need to show Your passports when buying mobile phones. This is real.

"Passports will be needed to buy mobile phones"
www.timesonline.co.uk...
(I raged while reading this article.)


Man, I've been involved in a triangulation situation, because a group of us went into the countryside. The police 'anticipated' where we were before we had set up the speakers. The police were very good and shut us down without searching us, but that is now.




"Everyone who buys a mobile telephone will be forced to register their identity on a national database under government plans to extend massively the powers of state surveillance."



"Government will spy on every call and e-mail"
www.timesonline.co.uk...


That's what's so fascinating, no one trusts the government, but no one trusts the government not to lose data either. And still they pile on.



Ministers are considering spending up to £12 billion on a database to monitor and store the internet browsing habits, e-mail and telephone records of everyone in Britain.


They've also fiddled my medical record, still in contest.


Here are two other articles of relevance.


There is no relevance to this government other than to damn us for doing what they do not like.

[edit on 20-10-2008 by redled]



posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 11:38 PM
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Originally posted by lightchild



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Gandhi didn't do so bad and don't forget Vietnam ,temperance leagues,women's suffrage and women's lib also worked.

I really think we need to break away from our computer-tv lives and rise up against the injustices of the elite before it is too late and they completely control our lives. It may come to pitchforks & torches but we can at least be out there to let them know they can't get away with it.



posted on Oct, 21 2008 @ 12:17 AM
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TSOM87
Before commenting on TSOM87's post a few remarks on the matter at hand. In my view the gloves are coming off in these islands. Just as the state hounds people to death enforcing the most insignificant EU regulation while other member states take every liberty under the sun the elite here grows bolder by the day, than ever. Announcements are now coming thick and fast. What's interesting is the indifference they display towards public opinion.

There is no 'war on terror'. Al Qaeda doesn't exist (I understand the term means 'toilet' in demotic Arabic - like you'd name your organization after a bodily function). Many informed sources suspect 'black ops' by Mossad, MI6 and the CIA to furnish the excuses required to clamp down on civil liberties even further. Watch Aaron Russo's 'America - From Freedom to Fascism' (YouTube). It gives a good idea of who's pulling which strings. Muslims don't strap their womenfolk down with explosives.

Someone mentioned prison overcrowding. This is typical of the propaganda we get. Read 'Land Fit for Criminals' by former probation service and legal adviser David Fraser, which exposes just about every lie and statistical deception peddled by the Left-controlled judiciary and probation service - aided by the TV of course - of the last 30 years.

Suffice to say we are lied to about inmate numbers. Squeezed budgets mean prisoners are confined to limited areas of institutions, fuelling the impression of overcrowding, while the real agenda is pursued - that of phasing out custodial sentencing altogether. This is not because of liberal idealism either.

The future being prepared for us is communist. Keeping criminals on the street - vastly more expensive than prison because of the staggering rates of re-offending they strive to conceal - promotes the uncontrolled criminality they need to engineer the collapse of civil society. The same tactic played out in Hungary in the 'fifties. Then it involved opening all the prisons and installing notorious criminals as regional police and intelligence chiefs - with predictably chilling results for the innocent citizens of that country.

What we are now on the verge of will administer a brisk corrective to those still fighting petty historical squabbles. The elites of the world will entrench their power through global government, a microchipped population and each and every life monitored 24/7. Better get organized.

TSOM87 - thanks for saying what you did. I'm English. I posted to much the same effect earlier on actually but it wasn't allowed. Maybe I don't belong to a victim-culture. Anyway it's appreciated. An Englishman and a Scotsman finding common ground. Wonders never cease.

You ask why he wrote this way ('British/Welsh/Scottish'). The answer is to deny our identity - Wales and Scotland are named. To be named is to exist. Without a name, and identity, your thoughts, feelings and beliefs count for nothing. Your countrymen too employ the device as it happens. Reviewing 'Chariots of Fire' for the BBC William Gallagher refers to Eric Liddell running for 'Scottish and British' gold - my country exists, yours I don't recognize. I've also seen Lord Byron (Scottish mother, English father) listed as 'anglo-Scottish.'



posted on Oct, 21 2008 @ 02:03 AM
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Telegraph





Centuries of British civil liberties risk being broken by the relentless pressure from the ‘security state’, the country’s top prosecutor has warned.






There has been criticism after councils have used powers which were designed to tackled terrorism to spy on local people.





“Sir Ken has been at the forefront of our counter-terrorism effort for several years, so he knows the security challenges we face.


According to some people on here Sir Ken is just another paranoid @!*# !

Wake Up !!!!!!

How is spying on mobile calls and Face book going to fight terrorists ?



posted on Oct, 21 2008 @ 07:02 AM
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Oh we're so scared of terrorists. Anyone could be a terrorist. We must monitor everyone. [/sarcasm]

How convinient. What if terrorists were made up to subdue us into letting them take our liberties?

I know this isn't a new idea, but every time I see something like this it makes me wonder a little bit more. We don't mind them spying on us becuase it might help stop terrorism...

Thanks to the OP for making this thread. I know, living in England some of the plans to introduce ID cards and such, but I can't believe how far they're taking it. I clicked on a link at random and lo and behold:


The move follows growing concern among police and the security services that serious criminals and terrorists are using websites as a way of concealing their communications.


There's that buzzword again. As long as it's to stop terroroists.


I know it's a breach of privacy not that we have much left anyway. But what can a peaceful protest do? They've been wanting to impliment this sort of thing for years.

I won't protest, I won't vote and people mistake this for not caring. I care, but I also know that protesting won't do a damned thing and voting only puts the lesser of a few evils in power for a while. When every month my rent and bills cost me more than I earn I have more to care about than whether they're watching me or not. Perhaps if they do watch us they'll have a better understanding of how to run this country.

There was more chance of the FL showing up on October 14th...



posted on Oct, 21 2008 @ 07:55 AM
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Originally posted by Jeebee
But what can a peaceful protest do?


A lot actually, it can prove that united we wont take the BS they have been feeding us for most of recorded history, it's time that we actually walked the "talk", instead of sitting on here drawing up battle plans for when they seize complete control.

Some people on here have actually realised that we need to switch off our TV's/PC's/Radios, go out into the streets in force, and remind these apes in government who put them in power.

This whole police state isn't inevitable, we can end the corruption of government if we actually told them enough is enough. We gave them the power & the responsibility to represent us, to defend our civil liberties and our very lives from those who wish to oppress us, yet the sad truth is they have become the very thing we wanted to be protected from.

If we have given them the power to rule, then it is we who can take that power back. It is the people of this world that can make a difference, not the leaders, absolute power corrupts absolutely - history has taught us that lesson, if you give a king/queen/emperor/president etc. enough leverage, they will stop at nothing to gain absolute rule.

It's time we took control & responsibility for our own lives, instead of letting someone else decide what is best for us. It is time we made a stand today, not tomorrow, because it could be too late to stand firm for your rights & your beliefs.

Let's end this corruption, let us unite this world under one voice, one heart, one soul, and one mind. Taking down the governments using force of an aggressive nature will only give them more reason to seize absolute control, a peaceful protest on a global scale is what is needed to end it. It may sound hippy-ish, but it is the only answer left, we need to unite in the name of love & peace.



posted on Oct, 21 2008 @ 08:04 AM
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posted on Oct, 21 2008 @ 09:39 AM
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well I think is not a wrong idea
but the point is that they have false ID sometimes or I should say always

they could hijack planes, or exploted the underground....
so...is going to be more easy for them to buy a mobile phone in the black market where maybe they dont need to show an ID
I dont know if its going to work or not
But I really like to live in a peaceful world



posted on Oct, 21 2008 @ 02:07 PM
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You and I both and I’m sure any intelligent, compassionate human being would feel the same way!

The problem is that the government is allowed to get away with so much these days it gives the impression that we live in a very loose definition of the term democracy; in short, we are fee to do as the government tells us!

I realise the security services are sometimes hampered by legislation and that when human lives are in danger they have to act quickly - I’m all for them getting as much help as possible to prevent mindless murders. The trouble is that this government is implementing poorly thought out laws based on the emotional/instinctive response to protect which simply do not protect the public and only serve to erode commonly assumed freedoms. They are political party propaganda to make the government appear to be doing much about nothing; they are simply masters of the art!



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