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Originally posted by nyk537
reply to post by maybereal11
The politics of division?
This coming about a candidate who seeks to implement redistribution of wealth through class envy?
Originally posted by maybereal11
Next why don't you ramble on about how Obama is a socialist
Will MSM Report on Obama Membership in Socialist New Party?
By P.J. Gladnick
October 8, 2008 - 16:15 ET
The mainstream media thought that the membership of Todd Palin, who is not a candidate for any office, in the Alaska Independence Party important enough to report in such outlets as the Los Angeles Times, MSNBC, and the New York Times, among others. So now that Barack Obama's membership in the far left New Party has been unearthed, will they report his membership in that Socialist organization?
Proof of Obama's membership in the New Party was discovered by the Politically Drunk On Power blog:
In June sources released information that during his campaign for the State Senate in Illinois, Barack Obama was endorsed by an organization known as the Chicago "New Party". The 'New Party' was a political party established by the Democratic Socialists of America (the DSA) to push forth the socialist principles of the DSA by focusing on winnable elections at a local level and spreading the Socialist movement upwards. The admittedly Socialist Organization experienced a moderate rise in numbers between 1995 and 1999. By 1999, however, the Socialist 'New Party' was essentially defunct after losing a supreme court challenge that ruled the organizations "fusion" reform platform as unconstitutional.
After allegations surfaced in early summer over the 'New Party's' endorsement of Obama, the Obama campaign along with the remnants of the New Party and Democratic Socialists of America claimed that Obama was never a member of either organization. The DSA and 'New Party' then systematically attempted to cover up any ties between Obama and the Socialist Organizations. However, it now appears that Barack Obama was indeed a certified and acknowledged member of the DSA's New Party.
On Tuesday, I discovered a web page that had been scrubbed from the New Party's website. The web page which was published in October 1996, was an internet newsletter update on that years congressional races. Although the web page was deleted from the New Party's website, the non-profit Internet Archive Organization had archived the page.
From the October 1996 Update of the DSA 'New Party':
"New Party members are busy knocking on doors, hammering down lawn signs, and phoning voters to support NP candidates this fall. Here are some of our key races...
Illinois: Three NP-members won Democratic primaries last Spring and face off against Republican opponents on election day: Danny Davis (U.S. House), Barack Obama (State Senate) and Patricia Martin (Cook County Judiciary)."
You can find the above quote from the scubbed New Party web page at this Internet Archive Organization link. More confirmation of Obama's membership in the New Party can be found at an article in the November 1996 Progressive Populist magazine:
New Party members and supported candidates won 16 of 23 races, including an at-large race for the Little Rock, Ark., City Council, a seat on the county board for Little Rock and the school board for Prince George's County, Md. Chicago is sending the first New Party member to Congress, as Danny Davis, who ran as a Democrat, won an overwhelming 85% victory. New Party member Barack Obama was uncontested for a State Senate seat from Chicago
Originally posted by nyk537
To those who question my ability to see beyond skin color...
What else about an Obama Presidency would be transformational??
He's crossing lines--ethnic lines, racial lines, generational lines. He's thinking about all villages have values, all towns have values, not just small towns have values.
...because of the inclusive nature of his campaign, because he is reaching out all across America, because of who he is and his rhetorical abilities--and we have to take that into account--as well as his substance--he has both style and substance--he has met the standard of being a successful president, being an exceptional president.
He is a new generation coming into the world--onto the world stage, onto the American stage
This Bill Ayers situation that's been going on for weeks became something of a central point of the campaign. But Mr. McCain says that he's a washed-out terrorist. Well, then, why do we keep talking about him? And why do we have these robocalls going on around the country trying to suggest that, because of this very, very limited relationship that Senator Obama has had with Mr. Ayers, somehow, Mr. Obama is tainted. What they're trying to connect him to is some kind of terrorist feelings. And I think that's inappropriate.
I'm also troubled by, not what Senator McCain says, but what members of the party say. And it is permitted to be said such things as, "Well, you know that Mr. Obama is a Muslim." Well, the correct answer is, he is not a Muslim, he's a Christian. He's always been a Christian. But the really right answer is, what if he is? Is there something wrong with being a Muslim in this country? The answer's no, that's not America. Is there something wrong with some seven-year-old Muslim-American kid believing that he or she could be president? Yet, I have heard senior members of my own party drop the suggestion, "He's a Muslim and he might be associated terrorists." This is not the way we should be doing it in America.
And I look at these kinds of approaches to the campaign and they trouble me. And the party has moved even further to the right, and Governor Palin has indicated a further rightward shift. I would have difficulty with two more conservative appointments to the Supreme Court, but that's what we'd be looking at in a McCain administration.
Originally posted by BASSPLYR
the current republican party is only about furthering the aristocracy in this country.
They pander to the ignorant to keep themselves in power,
but the bottom line is unless you make the top 99% of income you are being used as a pawn by the republicans.
Stalin had said it best when he said. Ideas and knowledge are more dangerous than weapons. If we don't allow them to have weapons than we certainly won't allow them to have ideas and knowledge.
Sorta reminds me of the continuum of ignorance the current republican administration is seeking to perpetuate.
seriously Powell didn't endorse sharpton or jackson so what makes you think he's endorsing obama because he's black
. thats sorta racist. He's endorsing obama because he wants somebody in power who is not 100% corrupted.
As for all the people ragging on powell for doing bushes bidding. he's a soldier and good soldiers follow orders. get mad at bush and co. if you want to point blame.
Originally posted by Grand Puba
Please kill yourself for saying that powell or rice are endorsing obama because he is black!... Go play in traffic!!
Originally posted by maybereal11
A 12 year old ARCHIVE of a BLOG for the "New Party"? This is what you have? The record shows him registered as DEMOCRAT.
If you want to propagate new unfounded irrelevant attacks, go ahead...it's working great for John McCain so far...start a new thread rather than derail this one.
the Chicago "New Party". The 'New Party' was a political party established by the Democratic Socialists of America (the DSA) to push forth the socialist principles of the DSA by focusing on winnable elections at a local level and spreading the Socialist movement upwards.
Originally posted by GamerGal
Like the ones Rumsfeld gave to troops to torture people at Abu? Project Copper Green? The top guy gives orders, and they follow, but it all goes to hell when photos of Copper Green being used get out.
[edit on 21-10-2008 by GamerGal]