Im new and i believe i was just abducted

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posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 01:53 AM
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My name is Samantha Estabrook and im having problems lately in my normal everyday life, today i wokeup realizing a scary scary dream.

I dont believe in aliens or anything paranormal at all. I work and live like anyone else.

Im new and found this website and need advice on this cause i believe i was abducted and i know ppl are going to laugh at me but i see this site as for aliens and all that unexplained stuff.

I wokeup this morning at 1am with dreams of these gray alien creatures,

Once again i believe i was abducted and hope others have a simular experiance or who can give me advice on why these aliens do this.

2 of them were very scary looking, one of them was staring at me and the other "gray" creature was holding a device of some kind that looked like a small red box with a green triangle on it as he was looking towards another table with this "device" while i was laying on another with the other gray alien staring at me.

These grays or whatever you call them smelled very horrible and i cant believe this had to happen to me. Both of these aliens had scaly fish hands but were grayish white in skin color. They smelled so horrible and gasped for air when i wokeup.

I have dots all over my leg that form a circle and a pyramid shape in the middle of the circles. It is was so painful when i wokeup i had to go to the emergency clinic and came back home.


I remember the gray alien that was looking at me, it was skinny and was tossing me around on a metal table atleast three times and just staring at me with its black eyes and very thin mouth, while the other one was approaching.

I dont know if these are aliens or demons.

[edit on 19-10-2008 by Needadvice]




posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 01:59 AM
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They aren't space aliens. They are demons. They deceive you and then let you go to spread their lies for them. Works for them every time. Don't be fooled next time. Are you into any occult activities? Occult interests?



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 02:02 AM
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Originally posted by Blueracer
They aren't space aliens. They are demons. They deceive you and then let you go to spread their lies for them. Works for them every time. Don't be fooled next time. Are you into any occult activities? Occult interests?


no sir i never practice witchcraft or anything else, i dont even believe in the paranormal or whatever its called im a 47 year old woman.

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posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 02:04 AM
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Hi Needadvice, welcome to ATS.

Firstly, if you are indeed telling us the truth as you know it, then you need to take pictures of the markings on your leg and upload them here immediately otherwise you will understandably meet a tirade of naysayers.

The pictures should be quite high-res: i.e at least 1024x768px if you wish to obtain decent information in return... otherwise, I hope your not too sensitive to criticism (no offense intended).


IRM



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 02:07 AM
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Did you take any pictures of the wounds you described? Is there anything else you can further elaborate on? For example the smell, what could you compare it to?



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 02:07 AM
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Not sure why they chose you but their goal is to deceive. It worked. You've come here to spread it and a lot of people will believe you. I will be called the crazy one. I wish you luck. If you can think of anything along the lines of what I asked, let me know.



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 02:08 AM
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It's not helpful to fling religious propaganda at this person Blueracer. Perhaps keep those thoughts for a religious forum and not Aliens/UFO's!

I would ignore that post Needadvice! A complete Joke!

IRM



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 02:14 AM
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I dont know if these are aliens or demons.


I suggest not trying to mentally categorize them with an existing label. If you think of them as 'aliens' you may mentally group them with attributes you assume 'aliens' have. If you think of them as 'demons' you'll tend to associate them with traits you associate with demons. This might not be helpful. They may be 'something else' that you don't have a name for. Don't make assumptions.



i cant believe this had to happen to me.


It didn't have to happen. And it doesn't have to happen again. You can stop it.



I dont believe in aliens or anything paranormal at all.


That's fine. Since we've already agreed that you won't be thinking of these things as 'aliens' or 'demons' or anything else in particular...there's no need for any thoughts or feelings of disbelief. This thing that you've experienced is simply 'something else.' You don't know what it is yet. And that's ok. Don't try to to define it based on somebody else's assumptions.



and need advice


My advice is to pay attention. Don't make assumptions about what is going on. Suspend "belief" and simply try to observe. You need to find out as much as you can about what's going on...and it's possible that nobody here knows. But, it's almost certain that everyone here THINKS they know what's happening to you and will try at great length to assert their own preconceived notions of what's going on, and impose them on you.

Don't let them.

Make your own observations. Draw your own conclusions. Decide what you want to do about it. Have the courage to act on your decision.

Finally...be careful who you accept advice from. You are likely to be showered with opinions and advice here on this forum. Don't assume that anyone here has a clue what they're talking about. You're the one who has to live with you, and what happens to you. Not anyone else here.



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 02:20 AM
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Im not expecting anyone to believe me, i just wanted to know more about these gray creatures. I believe gray aliens are not friendly, im keeping my tv on and the dog in my room after this if i ever decide to go to sleep, im very very shocked at the moment and really shouldn't be posting on a forum.

I will be praying the next time this happens. And i will be taking meds if anything like this were to ever happen again.

I did a search on google about these gray aliens and see just one picture and shizzer all over my body.

Im sorry i could not provide evidence for this. God Bless you all.

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posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 02:21 AM
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She asked for help and I gave her my opinion. I will not save it for "a religious forum". This is very much connected to "aliens/UFOs". I care not how much I get ridiculed, I will speak my mind.



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 02:26 AM
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Originally posted by LordBucket


I dont know if these are aliens or demons.


I suggest not trying to mentally categorize them with an existing label. If you think of them as 'aliens' you may mentally group them with attributes you assume 'aliens' have. If you think of them as 'demons' you'll tend to associate them with traits you associate with demons. This might not be helpful. They may be 'something else' that you don't have a name for. Don't make assumptions.



i cant believe this had to happen to me.


It didn't have to happen. And it doesn't have to happen again. You can stop it.



I dont believe in aliens or anything paranormal at all.


That's fine. Since we've already agreed that you won't be thinking of these things as 'aliens' or 'demons' or anything else in particular...there's no need for any thoughts or feelings of disbelief. This thing that you've experienced is simply 'something else.' You don't know what it is yet. And that's ok. Don't try to to define it based on somebody else's assumptions.



and need advice


My advice is to pay attention. Don't make assumptions about what is going on. Suspend "belief" and simply try to observe. You need to find out as much as you can about what's going on...and it's possible that nobody here knows. But, it's almost certain that everyone here THINKS they know what's happening to you and will try at great length to assert their own preconceived notions of what's going on, and impose them on you.

Don't let them.

Make your own observations. Draw your own conclusions. Decide what you want to do about it. Have the courage to act on your decision.

Finally...be careful who you accept advice from. You are likely to be showered with opinions and advice here on this forum. Don't assume that anyone here has a clue what they're talking about. You're the one who has to live with you, and what happens to you. Not anyone else here.

What's your problem? You sound like a mason or some other jerk who thinks highly of himself. She came here looking for information, the only way for her to draw her own conclusions is to get information. You didn't have to go dissecting her post in such a manner. I'm sure there might be a few other members here who may share the same experiences or information.



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 02:28 AM
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why these aliens do this.


Why does anything prey upon anything else?

Who do muggers attack people with money? Why do rapists go after pretty young girls? Why do leeches latch on to juicy legs?

The answer is always the same: they want something, and they believe they can take it. The "what" they want, and the "whether" they succeed is immaterial at this point. These things, whatever they are, want something from you and they believe they can take it by force. Maybe they want spirit energy. Maybe they want sex. Maybe they want to tag you like a whale. I don't know. It doesn't matter.

They are a predator.

It is up to you to decide whether you will be their prey.

A rapist may tell his victim that she'd better submit or else he'll hurt her. If she does as he demands...his job is made much easier, and it will be even easier when he comes back the following night because each time it will be easier for her to simply accept her role as a victim.

If you want this to stop happening you need to decide that you will not allow it to happen. And you need to make sure that it doesn't. Maybe they are stronger than you. But maybe they aren't.

What if a 100 pound girl tells a 200 pound rapist that she won't submit? That she'll fight him, and scratch him and make his predation as difficult as she possibly can.

Even if they are stronger than you, you are NOT powerless. No matter what power they possess it IS within your power to affect the situation. You are a participant in your life and you have a voice in what happens to you.

Make your voice heard.



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 02:48 AM
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Originally posted by LordBucket


why these aliens do this.


Why does anything prey upon anything else?

Who do muggers attack people with money? Why do rapists go after pretty young girls? Why do leeches latch on to juicy legs?

The answer is always the same: they want something, and they believe they can take it. The "what" they want, and the "whether" they succeed is immaterial at this point. These things, whatever they are, want something from you and they believe they can take it by force. Maybe they want spirit energy. Maybe they want sex. Maybe they want to tag you like a whale. I don't know. It doesn't matter.

They are a predator.

It is up to you to decide whether you will be their prey.

A rapist may tell his victim that she'd better submit or else he'll hurt her. If she does as he demands...his job is made much easier, and it will be even easier when he comes back the following night because each time it will be easier for her to simply accept her role as a victim.

If you want this to stop happening you need to decide that you will not allow it to happen. And you need to make sure that it doesn't. Maybe they are stronger than you. But maybe they aren't.

What if a 100 pound girl tells a 200 pound rapist that she won't submit? That she'll fight him, and scratch him and make his predation as difficult as she possibly can.

Even if they are stronger than you, you are NOT powerless. No matter what power they possess it IS within your power to affect the situation. You are a participant in your life and you have a voice in what happens to you.

Make your voice heard.

Ok now that I agree with and it's good advice.



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 02:57 AM
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Hi Samantha, some ET species can be compared to demons but they are not the demons people believe them to be as in working for a devil or Satan they are extraterrestrial in origin however some ET's do have demon type personalities no doubt but these are far from being majority on earth. Only some of them can be Rouges/renegades definitely not entities anyone wants to meet. I'm certain these are not the one's you encountered because in most cases you would not be returned and they do not have access to just anyone.

Very possible you were abducted but you were returned and for the most part unharmed which is very typical in most abduction cases so you were probably taken by the "Neutral Grey (Species) they have absent personalities so can appear or act emotionless but it doesn't mean they have bad intentions-- most of these are biological machine type beings without souls programmed for specific tasks used by Et's/Entities that have souls that remain behind the scenes observing---These would have to be Neutrals in your case from the description you've given" In other words they are merely curious and interested in studying our DNA as a species so you were probably just observed and scanned with possible small samples taken from your DNA.

If you have physical evidence to confirm your memory or dream then you were probably taken, you will only remember small things like you are announcing and it will all seem unclear or like a dream but if you have marks on your body as you remember in your dream it is most probable something happened with them in the physical.

Worldwide in the millions out of billions are being contacted that doesn't always mean abducted but observed. There are malevolent, Benevolent and in between or Neutral ET's of all kinds. For the most part the malevolent do not have access of taking a human in the physical unless they willingly become participants. (Though rules as they say are made to sometimes be broken) There are other entities continually observing us including guides that you have from the other side (most cases family). Some people like to call them guardian angels. These for the most part and in most cases protect us and can intervene if something is not right. We call alot of these interventions that happen in many various ways Miracles.

Another thing, most of what you remember is probably not really what happened, they have allowed you to have some memory otherwise you would not remember a thing---the human brain becomes paralyzed and interprets situations differently around ET's because of the higher level of existence they operate under that is not earthly and hard on the physical body. Your brain can malfunction not only from fear but from the state of mind and shock that you are placed in and most start hallucinating. It can be a scary experience, lifechanging because you cannot comprehend all that happened to you and you do not remember and that in itself is scary for anyone.

I wish you the very best and for whatever this is worth, there is nothing to fear just be at peace with yourself and try to stay spiritual. If you are religious then continue going to church and praying for comfort, but don't become paranoid and living in a state of constant fear that is something I wish I could have learned at a younger age along with most other abductees/contactees most go through this but it will end if you choose for it to end because in actuality there is nothing to fear you are continually being watched over by someone and protected. Whatever helps you get through your experience do it. But don't be afraid your guide and family are aware of everything happening in your life and there are no coincidences, accidents or mistakes that can happen by the higher ups looking down on us. Only humans see accidents, tragedies, wars, disasters and death as great horror but that is not how things work for those on the other side. They have everything under control and those who we believe die under terrible circumstances are taken quickly without pain.

I sincerely wish you the best and please keep us posted.





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posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 03:26 AM
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I'm afraid it's not connected at all. It appears you merely have a 'need' for everything to fall neatly into your religious ideology and explain everything away using 'wrath of god' commentary...

Just because someone like Chuck Missler hops on the ET bandwagon and starts explaining the things he doesn't understand away as demons, doesn't make it so. It's just religious fear mongering and a narrow mindedness born through ignorance and the need to bring more sheep back into the fold.

Ohh, that's right - 'Aliens' aren't mentioned in that 100% accurate book called the bible so it must be the product of the devil.. How stupid of me - what was I thinking?


IRM



posted on Oct, 20 2008 @ 06:28 AM
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Hi needadvice
assuming you are genuine and honest, you are now going to go through a time of great confusion and fear. Talk to people you trust, read decent literature about people who have had similar experiences and keep yourself healthy and aware. There are many thousands of people around the world who have had things happen to them they cant explain. What happened to the wound on your leg? Please take a photo of it, its very very important, and go to a doctor and get a thorough physical asap, make notes about anything that happens to you or any changes in your body, even small things. Dont allow yourself to get depressed or live in fear or embarrasment. Good Luck. You may after all find a perfectly simple explanantion..though the mark on your leg is of course the strangest part and may be the key. take a photo now!



posted on Oct, 23 2008 @ 08:52 AM
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NO-ONE HERE WILL MAKE FUN OF YOU DON'T WORRY

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posted on Oct, 24 2008 @ 09:04 PM
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Hi! I *feel* you. Fear can paralyze you. So I would suggest learning to
defend yourself. Learning to put on the armour of God & praying out loud
can be helpful. There are many protective aids to try, most of them are
spiritual in nature. Have a priest or someone knowledgable cleanse your
home. Learn how to place psychic protective barriers around you, your
family & your home. Ask guardian angels to surround your home: North,
South, East & West. Light protection candles. I am a christian but I do all
these things because I can feel when evil passes by & I tried to be
prepared!

If you have specific questions you can email me personally.


Be at Peace in the midst of madness.
Blessings, Cindy



posted on Oct, 24 2008 @ 09:37 PM
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You were not abducted, because aliens are not here. It was most likely a very vivid dream or maybe you had a type of sleep paralysis. Coming on here to ask for help, was not the best idea because there are those on here that will use you to spread thier fantasies. I would say if these dream continue then maybe you should see a doctor.



posted on Oct, 24 2008 @ 10:15 PM
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Assuming the op is giving an accurate description of her experience, I don't think dreams tend to leave marks on one's body.





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