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Name 5 men currently in positions of power
who are verifiably members of a Masonic lodge.
(Either by their own admission, proof of lodge records, or reputable secondary sources.)
Originally posted by LordBucket
I've met your challenge. Now what?
Star and thanks indeed are in order. Now when people go off on nebulous terms about phantom powers, we can instead begin to speculate how Tony Baldry, Omar Bongo, James H. Douglas, Samuel Augustus Nun, Jr. and Jesse Jackson are running the world.
Originally posted by LordBucket
I've met your challenge. Now what?
Originally posted by LowLevelMason
reply to post by JoshNorton
(...) Were the power myth true, I would expect half the US senate, the US Supreme Court, and the parliamentary equivalents across the world to be masons.
Originally posted by MetatronCubensis
Berlusconi the current PM of Italy at least was a mason at some point
Also John McCain's father and grandfather were masons.
we can instead begin to speculate how Tony Baldry, Omar Bongo, James H. Douglas, Samuel Augustus Nun, Jr. and Jesse Jackson are running the world.
if there are any other takers who wish to expand upon LordBucket's
brigade I shall encourage such efforts.
I'll have to check into that one further.
Originally posted by LordBucket
These are LODGES claiming that that a quarter of all Pennsylvania Senators are masons
Historical. Not interesting unless you can cite the current director.
that the FBI has been run by a freemason for half its history
But none now.
that a third of all US Supreme Court Judges in history were masons
And the last one left office 30 years ago. (And, not to quibble, but less than a third. It's generally believed that LBJ did not finish his degrees, thus lowering the total to 14/43.)
That more than a third of all our presidents have been masons.
Seriously? No. I don't. 2 out of 50 governors? That's not a large chunk. Less than one third of all presidents in over 200 years? Not really evidence of us running things.
You don't seriously think this isn't a large chunk of positions of power do you
Originally posted by LordBucket
...I'm sorry...was that supposed to be sarcasm? You presented this as a challenge that "nobody in ten months" had been able to accomplish. All I did was spend twenty minutes on google. The reality is that nobody met your challenge up until now because they were lazy.
Originally posted by LordBucket
You asked for five, I gave you five. If you had asked for ten I would have given you ten. How many do you need? It's not like there's any shortage of them. Just look at what Lodge websites say.
Originally posted by LordBucket
Prince Michael of Kent
Originally posted by LordBucket
Spencer Compton
Originally posted by LordBucket
David A. Patterson
Originally posted by LordBucket
Jeffrey Piccola
Originally posted by LordBucket
David Sentelle
Originally posted by LordBucket
So now that I've doubled what you originally asked for, let's look at some other interesting facts, shall we?
Originally posted by LordBucketIt's a news article on scottishrite.org which describes former US Representative Paul Gillmor introducing "House Resolution 33" to officially honor and recognize freemaons.
1/5/2007 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.
Originally posted by LordBucket
Apparently it's quite common for members of our government to pass bills formally recognizing freemasonry.
Originally posted by LordBucket
Doesn't it also make you wonder how many masons in positions of power don't have their lodge affiliation listed conveniently on google? How many of those 13 Pennsylvania Senators do you think will come up if you do a google search for their name + "freemason"? And do you really think that Pennsylvania is unsual? I'm betting it probably isn't.
Originally posted by LordBucket
Just take a look at what some official Lodge websites have to say:
Originally posted by LordBucket
Think about this. These are LODGES claiming that that a quarter of all Pennsylvania Senators are masons, that the FBI has been run by a freemason for half its history, that a third of all US Supreme Court Judges in history were masons. That more than a third of all our presidents have been masons.
Originally posted by LordBucket
You don't seriously think this isn't a large chunk of positions
It's generally believed that LBJ did not finish his degrees,
thus lowering the total to 14/43.)
Seriously? No. I don't. 2 out of 50 governors?
Not really evidence of us running things.
Even if every world leader in history had been a mason,
someone is going to have to provide evidence that being
a mason either put them in that position or somehow was
used to their advantage. No one has been able to do such.
To be fair, I have yet to see LordBucket come
out and say anyting agqainst Masonry
I am pretty sure masons are in no way close
to taking over anything but a parade.
Ya'll have a nice day.