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"How hast thou fallen from the heavens, O shining one, son of the dawn! Thou hast been cut down to earth, O weakener of nations."
"I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."
This bloodline includes the Habsburgs, the most powerful family in Europe under the Holy Roman Empire; Geoffrey Plantagenet and the Plantagenet royal dynasty in England; King John, who signed the Magna Carta; King Henry Ist, II, and III, who were extremely close to the Knights Templar, as was King John; Mary Stuart and the Stuart Dynasty, including King James Ist of England, sponsor of the King James version of the Bible; King George Ist, II, and III; Edward Ist, II, and III, Queen Victoria; Edward VII; George V and VI; Queen Elizabeth II; Prince Charles and Elizabeth's other offspring, Anne, Andrew and Edward; Princes William and Harry from Charles' "marriage" to Princess Diana; US Presidents, George Washington, John Adams, John Quincy Adams, Thomas Jefferson, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and George Bush.
Have you come across any books that go into detail about what you've pieced together regards your take on who Jesus really was....has such a book even been written yet ?
Another question : so, Jesus wants to capture the Roman Empire, unite the people under one religion. The gnostic gospels describe Jesus as preaching Self realization as opposed to external deity worship don't they...ie you are god, not "god is outside of you".
Do you think Jesus would have condoned this...was his original hope to establish the "religion" of self realization or do you think all along he wanted to"veil" this understanding and keep the info secret for all but the chosen few and feed the masses something that would better control them....in which case this would make Jesus as concealer of the deeper mysteries , a rather dubious charachter
Jesus has little say in what got written in the Bible....do you think he briefed his inner circle to go into the world and veil the truth after his death? Does this not make him like the illuminati ....a kind of devil in disguise ?
To capture a people, an empire, don't you really have to manipulate the people to effect control ? Surely Jesus have realized this and so hidden the deeper knowledge from the masses. Surely he would have realized a religion that is based upon self-realization and the kingdom of god being within you etc was hardly the way to go if you are trying to unite a whole empire ? Not at the current time anyway...in this era it's what people are dying to hear, hence the "New Age" movement and the philosophy of the UN's "Maitreya"
Or do you think Jesus WAS openly preaching the truth of the god-within to the masses but after his death his nearest and dearest were the ones that put a spin on the truth ?
One more question - hope you don't mind , I'm just interested in your views- Jesus's more secret, gnostic teachings seem to be put into the same basket as Luciferianism and Luciferianism seems to have a dark cloud hanging over it...I don't quite understand why as this god-within, you-are-god teaching is to me to actual core truth. Did the gnostics/Luciferianists somehow twist this truth up with some kind of lie ...I mean WHY has it got such a bad name otherwise. I'm v. interested in this as the Maitreya I talked about at length on brandon Levon's thread advocates a new agey Luciferianism...it's this kind of thinking the NWO seems to want to implement in their "kingdom of God".
Alos, Jesus and Lucifer seem to be the same person according to what Jesus himself implied.
Originally posted by 12.21.12
The other thing is the hypocrisy the church shows by stating that you should not worship an idol, yet they hang pictures of Jesus Christ everywhere, isn;t that by definition idolotry? What about the self proclaimed son of God saying, you shall not put any other God before me? Wait a second, I though he was only the son of God. This reeks of hypocrisy.
please tell me how the holy trinity is different subject matter with the fact that you say that he was only the son of god when the holy trinity points to the exact opposite opinion?
Originally posted by 12.21.12
Behold A Pale Horse: Part One
Cleopatra the self proclaimed Virgin Goddess Isis had a child with Julius Caesar named Ptolemy XIV also known as Caesarian who died in 33AD.
At this time Caesarian was adopted by her new care takers Mary and Joseph was forced to change his name to Esau (The Egyptian name for Jesus, the son of Isis) to hide his identity.
Which can also be found in Egyptian Hieroglyphics.
When Octavian invaded Egypt in 30 BC, Cleopatra VII sent Caesarion, then seventeen years old, to the Red Sea port of Berenice for safety, with possible plans of an escape to India. Octavian captured the city of Alexandria on August 1, 30 BC, the date that marks the official annexation of Egypt to the Roman Republic. Mark Antony had committed suicide prior to Octavian's entry into the capital; Cleopatra followed his example by committing suicide on August 12, 30 BC. Caesarion's guardians, including his tutor, either were themselves lured by false promises of mercy into returning the boy to Alexandria or perhaps even betrayed him; the records are unclear. Octavian had Caesarion executed there, with the words "Two Caesars is one too many". No events concerning his death have been documented, but due to his young age it is supposed he was executed by strangulation.