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posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 08:11 AM
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reply to post by Hidden_Hand
 


Mate...you have really read to many ascension, eather physics, wilcock books...
Next week you're going to read some stuff up on the electric universe theory (which is much closer than this mystical dimensional shift/mind ascension stuff you are talking about.....
Oh AND...No concrete evidence of Atlantis?????Auww...come now...surely someone with your "stature" would have evidence "YOUR HIGHNESS"


You live in a fantacy world my man!
In South africa we have a saying for people like you:
"JOU KOP RAAS BOET!"




posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 08:21 AM
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Originally posted by Anonymous ATS

reply to post by Live2Love
 


'contractual obligation that they must fulfill'...doesnt that go against the Law of Free Will? I think that is one thing he definitely realized when writing this post. It seems he believes he is forced to stay with this 'family' like one of those satanic cults or mafias, where they persecute you if you attempt to leave. Well, that is a choice he's gonna have to make, because the choice IS there, and we made it available for him to see. This thread definitely served as a two-way street.

-I AM Beautiful Victory


Anonymous..this cackpot wont reply to you...pretty much have him in a corner...in the beginning of the thread his purpose was to be psiritual guide, now he is satan that want to destroy everyone....what a clown!



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 11:24 AM
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What major event will happen in the next seven- fourteen days? What day will it be on, will it be during the day or night? Will it be a cover up or not? Thats my only question.



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 11:31 AM
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If you direct this question to the OP you can wait very long for an answer - he will never return to this thread. It was a one time opportunity to ask questions in 2008 and many missed it.



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 12:50 PM
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Originally posted by Deckard666
reply to post by Phlynx
 


If you direct this question to the OP you can wait very long for an answer - he will never return to this thread. It was a one time opportunity to ask questions in 2008 and many missed it.
Well that is stupid



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 04:49 PM
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Nope I don't think it's stupid. Everything happens for a reason. And we weren't meant to be here when this "Window of Opportunity" was open. I got he posts as a PDF eBook early this year to study and it wouldn't have been useful to me any time earlier. I wouldn't have known which useful questions to ask Hidden Hand back when he was here.

Just take his posts. Maybe you find a little gem in there. Maybe it's not important what happens in 14 days. Maybe something different is more important.



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 06:16 PM
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Originally posted by Deckard666
Nope I don't think it's stupid. Everything happens for a reason. And we weren't meant to be here when this "Window of Opportunity" was open. I got he posts as a PDF eBook early this year to study and it wouldn't have been useful to me any time earlier. I wouldn't have known which useful questions to ask Hidden Hand back when he was here.

Just take his posts. Maybe you find a little gem in there. Maybe it's not important what happens in 14 days. Maybe something different is more important.


I have never posted on this thread but I think it is the best thread that I have read on ATS. I came across it days after he was gone but I really did not need to ask him anything. I found it to my previous knowlege to be true but there was one thing I considered false. The Pleiadians are not good guys. IMO

Hidden_Hands was the real deal not BS. IMO

The fact he may have told one lie well he is Luciferian!



posted on Aug, 12 2009 @ 07:09 PM
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I don't know if he was the real thing. It was important for me to read it. I found something important in it for me. I come back to the posts once in a while because I know I missed something. I have no idea what it is. I think it isn't at least important for anybody else just for me. Just something that triggers a thought into the right direction. I don't know how else to explain.



posted on Aug, 13 2009 @ 09:19 AM
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I think I finally see what's going on in all of this..

Extremely intriguing information. I was all too willing to believe it all. You with your straightforward, intellectual, unfailingly flawless grammar and all-around-good-guy, non-evoking attitude..

I couldn't say what part you play in all this, what part you truthfully play, but I believe that these so-called "Reptoids" are quite apart of the problem.



I asked for the Truth, and it is, at long last, gradually being revealed to me.


Vacant



posted on Aug, 13 2009 @ 08:15 PM
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Originally posted by Mind1universe

Originally posted by GrandKitaro777
I would like to talk to this guy, man that's such a bummer.

I question this thread; is it oriented in the means to have people serve the self. How does the illuminati justify its actions in the means of subliminally introducing entities in our music videos today (Rainman). Why did hidden hand state that there are no negative density beyond 4th, when RA says the contrary? You say the RA material is 90% correct is this disinfo to portray your material as 100%, there is a such thing as adding truth and mixing with lies and simultaneously take the lies as truth.


I would be happy if anyone substitute for hidden hand and answer my questions. I'm a intelligent 17 yr that needs answers
[edit on 21-7-2009 by GrandKitaro777]

[edit on 21-7-2009 by GrandKitaro777]



There is no good vs evil beyond the fourth dimensions, because negative forces don't survive beyond the 4th dimension simply because your vibration is towards the light.

The Fourth dimension is ruled by interdimensional energies such as reptillians who rule over the lower dimensions. They are like the dominions over the victimized. You are here to face yourself and grow.

You can be the victim forever, but you will stay at these lower dimensions. Once you realise you do not die, you will realise that all the pain and suffering you experience in the 3rd density is merely only pushing you to growth.


I'm not going to create a huge dichotomy over this matter, simply because dichotomies are the cause of earth's collective thought residing in the negative state. I simply put more trust in RA then H-H. Hidden is on the STS path, and since he clearly states this I remain objective of his words and use discernment to see what holds true. The Orion empire as described by RA is on a mission for recruitment and enslavement, which acts accordingly of the illuminati plans.



posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 12:43 AM
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Hi everyone. Is there a forum where this material from H_H is discussed in depth and with serious tone? Or does anyone wish to discuss this material with me privately? I have no interest in the usual online sabre-rattling with trolls. My email is
ymunio(dot)c(at)gmail(dot)com. For the last week I've been reading a transcript of this thread on my iphone a little at a time. For lack of better words my jaw is on the freaking floor. This is information not easily found in outside information sources. Reading what H_H had to say was a very personal experience for reasons I don't care to explain. Thanks ahead of time to anyone who responds. I plan on reading backwards through these posts in case the above questions have already been asked or answered.



posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 03:27 AM
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I'm interested in discusing HH and his writings as this touched me in a personal way. I believe I was contacted by this group years ago and was offered an opportunity to work with or for them. I am interest to see if others have had similar experiences and how they contacted you etc.

My soul greets you.

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[edit on 15-8-2009 by rken2]



posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 03:56 AM
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Are hot and cold opposites

is love and hate opposites

is spirit and matter opposites

Or are they degrees of the same thing. Where does cold leave off and warm begin.

Do we live in a duality or is it realy just a singularity.

What is the difference betwenn selfishness and self centeredness.



posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 11:52 PM
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How did they approach you? Did they present anything written like a gag order? What about a questionnaire about morality?

Nine years ago I had a girlfriend who was approached and spent days trying to answer a written questionnaire. She read me some of the more difficult questions and it all seemed redundant like an integrity test. She was such a loudmouth but she never said anything about her being recruited. Sometimes our conversation would turn towards the subject and she'd get a look on her face like she desperately wanted to talk. But then she would just go completely silent. I could tell it drove her nuts. Whatever they said to her worked. Ever since I've been curious how she may have been threatened into secrecy.

They DO recruit at the lower rungs of hierarchy, what H_H said can be misleading, I think he was just referring to 'family' where you have to be born in. That may be true higher up but the people we've met or seen most on television are not 'family' They are average folks like us, police, military, freemasons, day care workers, clergy, housewives, etc. I think that's among the most common fundamental thing people don't understand about this group is how it operates at the bottom. How many levels of involvement there are. How the lower you go in status in this group the less you know about what's going on. And how wide this pyramid structure really is at the base. People seem to be clueless as to the nuts and bolts of how they operate in day to day life. The brightest and most intuitive of us... we end up trolling around conspiracy forums debating lizard people or UFOs. Whether there's any truth to that stuff or not, we end up out of touch with what's going on around us in our real lives where we're most affected by this group, and where we can actually stop these people if we wanted. And this goes on to such an extreme that a real insider like H_H or Svali steps forward and they're just torn to shreds.

There's a part of me that thinks people like us, "outsiders," in general we deserve to have this dark element in our society quietly watching us herding ourselves into their domination. Because as civilians who are not involved, even those of us who are involved, we're not very bright. These people operate right under our noses, we're practically begging to be controlled and enslaved. If it wasn't illuminati it would be some other group, taking the reigns of control of our lives that we so eagerly throw out of our reach.


Originally posted by rken2
I'm interested in discusing HH and his writings as this touched me in a personal way. I believe I was contacted by this group years ago and was offered an opportunity to work with or for them. I am interest to see if others have had similar experiences and how they contacted you etc.

My soul greets you.

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[edit on 15-8-2009 by rken2]



posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 02:00 AM
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Joechip,
Your post really resonated with how I often feel. Take this for that it's worth, one soul to another: Not being gung-ho excited about STO does not make you less evolved as a soul. Quite the contrary, it's more likely an indication that you're more experienced than most in a certain area of study. Standing on no credibility as an internet stranger I simply present this as a gentle reminder of something I'm convinced you already know, especially considering your perception of 3D heirarchy as being chimplike. I'm no spiritual guru or illuminati insider or Law of One buff or even a new age enthusiast. I just think we have some things in common and I see much of myself in what you posted.

The Ra material is such thick reading. I've recently begun to read the Law of One series myself, though not because of this thread. Right now I'm into book two. At some point I just decided to pursue channeled material after a realization that for every new age book I was wading through for information I wasn't really learning anything meaningful except for the parts that were directly channeled by the authors. And despite the wide range of subject matters where the channelled information was written it always seemed to say the same types of things in every book, meaningful things about seperation and unity that stood out far beyond the fluff and value judgements and explanatory material that filled the other pages. I began to grow impatient with the "fodder" that most other people seem to find more personal and of benefit. Once I undertook the Ra stuff I was amazed at how it felt comfortable to me despite the warnings I got to read a study guide along with it. Not that I'm better or smarter than others who have trouble with it, just I felt so at home with the tone and discourse and cold informational quality of it all. Maybe in that way it's more similar to information sources I've relied on in other incarnations. I'm not sure. But I know some of the stuff Ra describes is very abstract and way far beyond 3D earth experience, I don't know how anyone can put some of that stuff into any context and find meaning in it. My situation is different somewhat because my veil of forgetfulness came down two years ago. Much of it or even most of it is still over my head, but to some extent I can validate some of Ra's material as factual from my own spiritual memory. It gives me comfort that others have found value in it as well. As a newbie to the new age scene I've felt so lonely and flawed as I look around me and see such enthusiasm for the STO orientation that 2012 types seem to be right on board with without much thought. I've felt left out and discouraged and confused by how the whole "love and light" craze frankly makes me gag. I'm all for light but love is hard to feel for so many people I see around me. Especially in this lifetime my trust in other people has been obliterated and replaced with fear of what I know they're all capable of as I've seen some horrible things and experienced horrible things. I long to live in isolation and just pursue my own goals no matter what sort of "harvest" or "judgement" might await me and for that I feel wrong sometimes. But there's need to feel that way, if you relate to that at all, instead take comfort as I do now, that there are some uncomfortable experiences that you likely already have "under your belt" where your STO polarity has already been given a harsh test drive under extreme road conditions, if I may use that analogy. Even if that's not the case it's still true that in the end we'll emerge from this stronger in our chosen polarity whatever it might be, we'll be closer the state we wanted to be in before. reply to post by joechip[



posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 12:26 AM
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For those wanting to view a collated thread of Hidden Hand's posts, I have it here:
home.comcast.net...



posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 01:57 PM
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I dont think there is value in saying what you do



posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 02:36 PM
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Holy crap, you folks actually took this guy seriously?
You actually consider writting "fast replies" as proof of his divinity?


He makes several mistakes. Making predictions even though he say he will not make them. Answering to things that were not asked even though he did say he would not do that. It is very similiar to the other text that's linked in this thread. Where a supposed "insider" comes and speaks to people on a internet forum.

Out of all places, why here? And why even present oneself as a "divine, elite being". Why not just engage people in discussions and show them the "truth" that way. Far more belivable and easier to swallow.

This man either had a big ego or was conducting an experiment.
Everyone who belived him/her are/were quite gullible. And if anything it's a perfect topic for discussing a conspiracy. I read a qoute here from good old Irving Kristol in which he explains what positive thing it is to keep the population which seemingly desires the divine to think that there is a divine. Keeping the population from running amook. This is similiar to the theories of Edward Bernays - the nephew of Sigmund Freud. Ofcourse he and his supporters choose the path of endless and meaningless choices as a replacement for religion in keeping the masses organised and controlled.


Not that some of the things HH said can't be true. Some are possibly, even probably true. But he/she is most definetly a hoax.

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posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by Never Anonymous
Holy crap, you folks actually took this guy seriously?
You actually consider writting "fast replies" as proof of his divinity?



Maybe it is not by words - I listen.

There are many things "deemed acceptable" in this world people believe - - that I find unbelievable.

Who are you to judge with such eloquence?


[edit on 20-8-2009 by Annee]



posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 09:21 PM
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Originally posted by Never Anonymous

Out of all places, why here? And why even present oneself as a "divine, elite being". Why not just engage people in discussions and show them the "truth" that way. Far more belivable and easier to swallow.

[edit on 20-8-2009 by Never Anonymous]


Hidden Hand made it clear that he chose (or was selected) this forum because it was believed that the quality of discussion was above average compared to most other conspiracy-oriented forums. He seems to have been taken semi-seriously here, so I guess it wasn't a bad choice, although maybe the members of specific Law of One forums would have been more universally welcoming of his ideas.


Originally posted by ymunio
Hi everyone. Is there a forum where this material from H_H is discussed in depth and with serious tone? Or does anyone wish to discuss this material with me privately? I have no interest in the usual online sabre-rattling with trolls.


Hi Ymunio, it's good to hear that you have benefited from this thread. I have not been able to find any forums that focus on this information, but a commentary on many of the Hidden Hand posts can be found here:

www.metamorpheus.co.uk...


Originally posted by rken2
I'm interested in discusing HH and his writings as this touched me in a personal way. I believe I was contacted by this group years ago and was offered an opportunity to work with or for them.


Would you be willing to tell us more, Rken?

[edit on 20-8-2009 by Lysandus]

[edit on 20-8-2009 by Lysandus]



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