Originally posted by geek101
reply to post by JasonT
Basically, its the whole "men are born weak" crap.
I don't dress scantily myself but if women want to, and men are so weak...sod off and stay indoors.
And that's the problem. Women don't want to accept any responsibility for anything.
Originally posted by geek101
I never got that whole argument. Why the hell should women cover their bodies because men cant control themselves (which i don't believe, by the
way)...why don't MEN stay indoors or hey, here's an idea....stop assuming that because a woman dresses a certain way, she wants you.
There is nothing in the Quran that says a woman has to even cover her head. It says dress modestly. And it also says that for men. Thats all. Prove me
wrong, if you can.
I don't think I ever said that women should cover their heads, but I said that they should hide their body figure by dressing modestly.
“And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments
except what must ordinarily appear therof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and
not display their beauty except to their
husbands, their fathers, their husbands’ fathers, their sons, their husbands’ sons, their brothers, or their brothers’ sons or their sisters’
sons, or their women or the servants whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of
the shame of sex, and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O you Believers, turn you all
together towards Allah, that you may attain Bliss.” (Quran 24:31).
“O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them (when they go abroad). That will
be better, so that they may be recognised and not annoyed. Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful.” (Quran 33:59)
The bolded part of verse 24:31 is often said to mean to cover your heads and face too, but I don't believe that is the case, since it would've said
to cover from the head to the feet if she was meant to cover up everything, but she shouldn't be ridiculed if her love for God is so great that she
wants to do anything to please God, including going to the extreme to stop men looking at her.
Originally posted by geek101
I too have a large circle of Muslim friends and trust me when i say this...NOT ONE of them would have had anything but a feeling of revulsion for this
crime. NOT ONE. Even had she been older, they still would have felt the same.
I guess we'll have to agree to accept each others opinions. Maybe God will enlighten us in due course as to the correct way of thinking when dealing
with such situations, since I believe it goes much deeper than a nutcase paedo setting a girl on fire.
[edit on 19-10-2008 by JasonT]
