Originally posted by emeraldzeus
I think we all have to be very careful about pointing fingers at one particular group or another, or at one particular president over any
I agree, but I think its fair to say the vast majority of this nationalistic "if your not with us you hate the troops and america" is coming from
Let me just give you my definition of middle america, anywhere in these United States of America that is outside the urban areas which all happen to
be overwhelmingly Republican. I am sick to death of the sheer arrogance and the nerve of folks here to question my patriotism because I dont agree
with their logic.
The animosity and anger that has manifested in this line of thinking has really kept a lot of people from seeing the bigger picture. It's not
the fault of just republicans or just democrats or even just Bush, even though that is the popular and most common reaction for a country to do when
things go wrong. The average person isn't privy to all the political gears behind the scenes, and for the same reasons, each political group may
take advantage of a situation to make the other look far worse than they really are.
I agree to an extent that this blame cannot be all dumped into the republican basket although Im happy to dump around three quarters of it. Not to
mention this arrogance and this nationalistic attitude verymuch similar to that of Nazi Germany are majority conservatives, or Bush conservatives to
be exact. Get me a video or something where you have a progressive call a conservative "anti-american" or "terrorist loving" or "troop hater"
then maybe you'll make your argument more so true, but other than that this issue is of nationalistic middle america.
BOTH parties are to blame for this!
Damn straight, the democrats had a hand in this mess. They have been slack in congress, some of them whole heartedly supported the Iraq war including
Hillary and Biden, and most of them stood by while the neoconservatives continued to infiltrate the republican held whitehouse. That being said in all
fairness the Democrats are at most guilty of standing back and allowing themselves to believe in this garbage, allowing their own to benefit from
these lies, however this mess we're in is majorty Republican my friend.
Tell me back in 79' when carter was in, was this a two party issue? Did the republicans take responsibility in part for some of this mess?
What about when Clinton was having an affair in the whitehouse, tell me why was he hanged and yet the lies of this administration and this party is
given a free pass, and at the same time the democrats are all of sudden "socialists" and "mostly to blame" for some odd reason?
Both sides should take responsibility but theres a line between being an accessory to a crime and being guilty.
Let's keep in mind that Bush does not hold the power to make all the decisions that the country is angry about. I think this is the hardest
pill for the American public to swallow....our Congress and House of Representatives hold that power.
So by your accounts, all the debt and the wars we have gotten into since reagan can be traced back to the congress and the representitives who were
for most of the time majority republicans and only two years accounted to the Democrats? Utter BS, as far as can see it, the man at the core power
over the last 8years was a Bush from the republican party. Conspiracy or not, the man is held by the people as the guardian of this nation and he
failed big time.
Look as I recall this was about the nationalistic arrogance and ignorance of middle america where your patriotism is questioned because of your
freedom of thinking, what are you trying to say here? The majority aint from middle america?
If Americans are angry over the things going on in the country, they need to look at who holds the dominating vote in the house, and who is
running the house right now.
You mean congress elected two years ago? Come on now, we both know thats utter BS. This mess came along before this congress was elected, which was a
only 2 years ago. I mean seriously now.
It's our fault for voting in the corruption to begin with. One man and one party is not completely to blame.
Damn straight its the idiots fault for voting in bush TWICE, damn straight this cannot be all the fault of the right, although its majority the right
and middle america.
As far as the financial crisis goes, that started generations ago with the addition of The Federal Reserve.
And the "free thinking" "fiscal responsible" Republican administration didnt see this coming? With their $200 million a day war they didnt see
this coming? With their "free market no regulation" policies they didnt see this coming? With their "shut up liberal, be pro-american and think
conservatively" attitude they didnt see this coming?
Lets go back to this arrogance nationalistic attitude that seems to have consumed conservative america now shall we?
[edit on 20-10-2008 by southern_Guardian]