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Originally posted by CVTman
reply to post by mybigunit
Yes, I agree we would be a better country without the income tax. We had a choice to nominate Micheal Huckabee just this year. Perhaps if enough of us write the McCain campaign, he can be convinced to include the Fair Tax plan as part of his platform.
Originally posted by southern_Guardian
I want troops out of this oil war, does this make me anti-american?
I want a change in direction for this nation, does this make me unpatriotic?
-When you oppose the Iraq war, your anti-troops and your anti-patriotic. So I should just sit along and believe in everything the government tells me, so long as their the republicans with "christian" ideals?
....Folks you know what this reminds me of? 1930s Germany, where you were labelled as a hater of your nation when you questioned the Nazi controlled government.
Fighting for freedom in Iraq huh? Thats why I cant question the war huh?
....They certainly dont want us there, what makes you think we're fighting for freedom?
....There were no damn WMDs, so why did we still go in there?
I cant believe that in 2008 I cant question a damn the about the government because rightie says so.
Originally posted by TheAgentNineteen
Wow, you need to slow down and stop spewing ignorant statements brought forth through your naivety.
First off, OIF is anything BUT an "Oil War". Just the fact that you fail to grasp such a wide concept, displays your narrow mindedness beyond anything else stated thereafter. It is a war which deposed one of the greatest mass murderers of our time. How was the deposing of Slobodan Milosevic in Bosnia any different? Oh wait, that was done under a Democrat President, so there you go, again, your biasedness. It is also a central front in the War on Terror, and is completely necessary (and quite effective) in drawing Extremists out of hiding so we may engage them (on FOREIGN Soil none-the-less). It is a righteous fight, and we have made great inroads in the Middle East due to such.
Change the direction of the Nation? Which direction might that be? Yes, let us shoot straight left and become a Socialist Nation which enacts "Fair Doctrine" laws and oppresses Free Speech beyond anything you have witnessed so far.
As for "1930's Germany" stop trying to turn around the argument linking the same to the masses chanting "Obama" and pleading for "Change" through "Hope". You have no idea what that era was like, and the connection you wish to portray is not even comparable. It is those like you who wish to lead this Nation towards complacency and Socialism, which is what NAZI Germany was about. No one is stifling your freedom to speak your view, no one is in the streets snatching up everyone's firearms as of yet (Which IS something the Socialist Democrats wish to do), and no one is running you out of town. So calm down.
As for the WMD's, time and time again it has been documented that Iraq did have them. There are SAT Images of the Trucks ferrying them over the border into Syria pre-OIF, along with the HUMINT confirming such. You also must be missing the blatantly obvious aspect of the fact that Iraqi Soldiers were issued CHEM Suits and CHEM Antidotes pre-OIF. The statement of "There Were No WMD's" is so naive of the actuality, the only reason you can run with such an argument is due to the Classification of contrary documents.
As for the Iraqi people, you have no clue about what the majority of them think. Most of them DO want the United States there. I have witnessed Iraqi Villagers praising the United States Military as "God-sent Angels". I have witnessed Iraqis fighting alongside the U.S. I have seen the bonds which have been formed between Iraqi Children, Families, and their American counterparts. I have seen the Schools, Water-treatment Facilities, Sewage treatment Facilities, Power Plants, Hospitals, Fire Departments, and Police Stations which have been erected. For the first time ever many of these Iraqis are now receiving Running Water, Electricity, Television, Health Care, Protection, and Education. So do not go around telling me that the Iraqis do not want us there, when you have no inside knowledge or experience of such. You form your entire basis of knowledge upon narrow perspectives and ideals.
Originally posted by emeraldzeus
I think we all have to be very careful about pointing fingers at one particular group or another, or at one particular president over any others.
The animosity and anger that has manifested in this line of thinking has really kept a lot of people from seeing the bigger picture. It's not the fault of just republicans or just democrats or even just Bush, even though that is the popular and most common reaction for a country to do when things go wrong. The average person isn't privy to all the political gears behind the scenes, and for the same reasons, each political group may take advantage of a situation to make the other look far worse than they really are.
BOTH parties are to blame for this!
Let's keep in mind that Bush does not hold the power to make all the decisions that the country is angry about. I think this is the hardest pill for the American public to swallow....our Congress and House of Representatives hold that power.
If Americans are angry over the things going on in the country, they need to look at who holds the dominating vote in the house, and who is running the house right now.
It's our fault for voting in the corruption to begin with. One man and one party is not completely to blame.
As far as the financial crisis goes, that started generations ago with the addition of The Federal Reserve.