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I say it again now, THINK.......
I know what is, I'm not going to say anything yet
Originally posted by abelievingskeptic
I think the real conspiracies are the ties the cia has with mossad and the ISI and the ties all three have with al qaeda. Not to mention all the financial questions that still lie unanswered.
Originally posted by Cool Hand Luke
The problem that came out of that war is that for the Mujahideen the war wasn't over for them when they defeated Russia. Their fundamentalist ideal is to make the whole world Islam which includes America.
In their own words, they only had to defeat two world powers, America and Russia, to accomplish their goal. They thought that defeating Russia was the tougher of the two powers and thought America was going to be easy considering the lack of action during the Clinton and Bush41 years.
Who actually bombed, if you know please tell me. America weak, did you ask the terrorist's that they thought America was weak?
I mean they bombed a couple of Americas embassies around the world, they bombed the WTC in 93 and attacked an American ship. America's response to these terrorist acts? Send a few missiles. They saw America as weak.
That is not correct, given the evidence of America's interest in the last 8 years. That is a discipicable and ignorant thing to actually say. America does NOT pratice stability nor abroad.
It is also no secret that it is in America's interest to have a stable secure Pakistan that is willing to help fight against the taliban and al queda.
CIA carried out these regimes in many countries, where they will eventually fall unstable or civil war breaks out. Then America comes in "like oh I'm going to save the day"
The problem is is that that nation is teetering on becoming a failed state where the rule of law means nothing.
Oh did you get in there and meet them? Let's be real here seriously. You are completely sucked into the media nonsense, its unbelievable and at the same time not surprising.
Along their border there are many of these fundamentalist militants hiding in the mountains.
Now America is faced with a difficult decision. Do they take the fight into Pakistan and risk increasing the size of the war to bring it under control or do they try and empower the Pakistani government to do their job (which means funding, sharing intelligence with ISI, etc) and keep American troops out of Pakistan?
When has America ever stopped to actually think that, ever?
That is why I do not think that the US will step foot into Pakistan unless that country completely collapses which I don't think will happen any time soon.
This war is unique because it is not against a uniformed army, it is a war against individuals. And given that complexity it is no surprise that innocent people have died like they have in every war in history.
The media's job, is to make money. Government controls them, therefore it's about money. Enough of it to go around, and all the insane news is on the television, I can see it. So I turn it off.
I agree the media has been terrible at making sense of what is happening half a world away. But then again, that is not their job. Their job is to get ratings.
My suggestion to anyone is to listen to long interviews, read books with people who are knowledgeable about what is going on. But most are like me we don't have the time or not willing to take the time as to what is happening out there. Instead most people rely on headlines when they should be looking at history books.