Science proving there is a God? WHAT?!

being the only planet confirmed to support life in an almost infinite and expanding universe, which is believed to only be one of an infinite number of almost infinite universes, the use of statistics is quite pointless.

it really doesn't matter at the moment how large the ratio is, it is still possible that we are that 1 in a bazillion chance.

how is it that the statement, "intelligent life being created coincidentally over billions of years from matter" is less logical than saying, "intelligent life that already just happened to exist created more intelligent life to populate and be fruitful on this planet"?

does anyone offer up an explanation as to where this divine being came from or how it came to be? because without that theory, the idea that all this was 'intelligently designed' becomes far, far less sensible. it would almost be akin to evolutionists just stating that 'life has just always been, but it still evolves,' without offering any explanations as to how it may have arose.

the fact of the matter is, earth wasn't chosen as THE PLANET to put life on; we could have evolved anywhere; there are billions of planets in our universe on which life existing is a good possibility, as they happen to reside in a habitable, hospitable range when we look at where they are in relation to their parent star. people, we didn't choose earth, earth chose us. had our sun burned hotter, earth would be more like mercury and life would be out of the question, so we would have evolved on another planet, orbiting one of the other billion stars in our milky way galaxy, or quite possibly one of the other 50 billion galaxies containing billions of stars out there.

it's pretty much a given that there is life on other planets; there are REAL equations to back that one up. anyone who believes that some guy or girl sat down with a bunch of lego blocks and built everything on this planet that is so intrinsically linked through our biosphere is more egotistical than religious, and can't even begin to wrap their mind around science or the study of the universe, so they choose to ignore it and come up with an answer they can control.

the world is flat, indeed...

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It might help you to try to understand evolution - it doesn't work the way you seem to think it does. Seriously. Your take on it is quite hilarious.

some pure common sense can help sometimes, for example:

it would not make any sense for me to state that the computer and the keyboard you are using came about by chance. Many people were involved in the creation of it, and a computer can't even compare with the complexity of the human body, planet earth and the universe.

Does God Exist?

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Not this old, busted-up, illogical argument. Sheesh.

We didn't come about by chance. We are formed by replicating building blocks that either survive long enough to pass on their unique attributes or don't.

Just try to learn about evolution before spouting off about it - it looks funny.

Originally posted by E-ville
the problem with this argument is that even on mars there is evidence of life, microbes, that means there is 1 out of nine chance of life even n our solar system let alone others , every star you see is a solar system with its own chance for life..

We have not yet found any life on mars! Microbes or otherwise.

Originally posted by spy66
According to our science no human can survive on mars with out technology. That means with out unnatural help.

yes also no human could live unaided at the bottom of the sea around black smoker vents but bio mass for bio mass there is more life down there then running around on land

If you go to mars and bring water and try to plant a forest and grass under its sky it will all die out.

as will grass at the bottom of the sea

Mars don't have the ability to make or preserve life like earth dose. Because of its location compared to the sun.

what? becasue its colder then earth? its still within tolerance levels for some life forms on earth and those life forms dont mind to much about atmosphere either

So in other words earth is a special place compared to any other planet. The question is! Is earth and its moon put here by chance ?

So far we only have ideas on where our moon comes from. But no real proof.

except we have a thoery that predicts things about the moon such as how fast it is traveling, how far from earth it should be, how far from earth it is moving on a yearly basis as well as the chemical tests and studies done on moon rock brought back

they checked them and guess what they were right they accuratley predictued speed distance and speed of travel away from the earth. its a valid thoery now not an hypothesis so yes we know where the moon came from with a fairly accurate amount of information

wait so life can live thrive at the bottom of the ocean in tempratures of voer 400 degrees, and can live in cave systems where it takes it energy from sulfuric acid and stone, can live in near barren intense heats(pick a desert) as well as extreme cold tempratures

life on earth has shown it could survive on several planets and moons in our solar system, it may not be lions and zebra running around but life is just as possible as on earth ... so how it so special?

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Originally posted by holywar
some pure common sense can help sometimes, for example:

it would not make any sense for me to state that the computer and the keyboard you are using came about by chance. Many people were involved in the creation of it, and a computer can't even compare with the complexity of the human body, planet earth and the universe.

Does God Exist?

o_0 yes thats silly thinking that,

becasue we all know theres is not a natural process that could result in a keyboard, we have also seen people making keyboards and it says made in china on the bottom, we know this is designed we have the designs there is plenty of evidence that a keyboard is a man made item as is a coke can and to a certian degree that nice yellow banana that fits in your hand so well

so lets look at the super complex stuff like humans and the universe, can we find natural reasons for thier existance .. yes .... can we make predictions using the rules of observations we made about bodies and universe .. yes, so could bodies and universe's be a natural process free from men in lab coats and designers ..yes

nice try with the same old tired argument though im sure it appreciates you still care about it enough to drag out and flog

WOW!!!! there some mean people on here


"If you discovered how one wheel in the 'clock' turns—you may speculate how the rest move, but you . . . better leave alone the question of who wound up the spring" -PHYSICS professor Ulrich J. Becker, of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

reply to post by holywar

he might well speculate that by who do we know he means god? your god? any god? maybe he uses it in the same way Einstein and Hawkings beleiev in a higher power that its not actually a beardy invisible sky daddy but the ultimate set of laws of physics

a much better question would be so how does the second cog work

mean ... no not really just bored of answering the same tired argument over and over they may change the subject to various points of science but still the same strawmen arguing from ignorance or probability etc


rule of thumb if it looks so complex it appears designed turn it over, if it has made in *add country of choice* on the bottom it is, if it doesnt just keep quiet and hope no one notices the question your trying to fight back

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