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Man murdered wife over Facebook status

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posted on Oct, 18 2008 @ 11:46 AM
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I don't believe facebook was the issue. If he caught her with another man, he probably would have done the same thing. Facebook was just the medium for her to find guys. It could have been anything.

As far as the husband, I really do hope there is something more after this life, and people like that have to answer to a higher power. If I did not believe this, then I don't know if I could bare life itself. What he did to this woman is very cowardly imo. He could not be a man, and face the music like one.

Even if you don't love someone, even if you are sooooo enraged, I still do not see how a human being could do something like this. I watch forensic files, and court tv all the time, and I always find myself asking this same question.




posted on Oct, 18 2008 @ 12:06 PM
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Originally posted by asmeone2
To Unlimitedpossibilities,

No, I don't think you can blame Facebook at all.

I'm sure the guy would have eventually learned that she was "single" again through phone messages, word of mouth, emails, ect.

He probably would have felt no less justified in killing her.

It certainly wasn't Facebook's fault--it didn't make the man do it--his own choices did.

I don't even thin you can say it was the girl's fault for posting too much info. All she did was change her status, and the relationship with him was over--she had the right to do that.


Yeah your right. He could have made the choice no matter what. I guess that was what i was alluding too last night when I was very tired writing that post. Just playing a little antagonist I guess.


[edit on 18-10-2008 by Unlimitedpossibilities]



posted on Oct, 18 2008 @ 03:04 PM
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Originally posted by Discotech

Originally posted by TKainZero

Vermin like this should be put to death.
Places that don't have the death penalty are sick...
I hope that these countires/states/cites that DO NOT have the death penalty have horrible crimes like this happen to them every day.

Mabye then, they will realise that the fear of losing ones life is often the best deterent.


Yes because dead people can learn from their mistakes.....

America is proof the Death penalty does not work at scaring people into not comitting crimes


Many American States have the Death Penalty, they do not exercise it because of bleeding heart religious fools who think a killer will 'learn their lesson'. Even in California, the Terminator, Governor Moviestar has proven a big pansie, a coward, chicken of his own shadow by not signing one death warrant. The Supreme Court of the USA has decided that Childmolestation does NOT warrant the Death Penalty.

Either kill them all or let them out on the street.



posted on Oct, 18 2008 @ 08:54 PM
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Originally posted by ben420
Your country has one of the highest, if not the highest, murder rates in the world. But you still claim the death penalty saves you?



Im not 100% sure how it works in Cannada, but here in the US, each state has thier own laws reguarding the death penality.

And even in states where it is enforeced(the former US state of California) it is not effective because they let people sit on death row for decades.

And, the US has a HUGE diverse population, with many large urban areas.
It is in these areas where the murder is out of control.


I think its pretty clear in this case that this man should face the death penalty.

And look at this case, in the UK they have some of the strictest gun control laws on earth. But that doesn't remove the violence. The result is stabbing are WAY up, and now, instead of reading stories about someone being shot, you get a story about a murder with a meat cleaver...


But hey, if you feel safe not haveing a defense if some crazy lunitic breaks in, thats on you.

Some people want to have a shotgun for home defense.
Some people want to have and alarm and a cellphone on hand.

Your choice.

Thats how it works here in the US...

or at least used to... well... is suposed to... but you cannot realy control these curput politicians... unless you are on the board of Goldman Schacs...


The prospect of the death peantly is the best deterent there is for crime.
Life with the prospect of parole is just pathetic in my opinion.



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 01:16 AM
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Originally posted by TKainZero
And look at this case, in the UK they have some of the strictest gun control laws on earth. But that doesn't remove the violence. The result is stabbing are WAY up, and now, instead of reading stories about someone being shot, you get a story about a murder with a meat cleaver...


But hey, if you feel safe not haveing a defense if some crazy lunitic breaks in, thats on you.

Some people want to have a shotgun for home defense.
Some people want to have and alarm and a cellphone on hand.

Your choice.


Why are you bringing up gun control? I said absolutely nothing about gun control.

I am against gun control if you must know



The prospect of the death peantly is the best deterent there is for crime.
Life with the prospect of parole is just pathetic in my opinion.


Actually, every person armed with a weapon is the best deterrent for crime. Having a death penalty usually just ensures that the perpetrator kills the victim to lessen his chances of being incarcerated.

My concern with you is the line you typed where you said every country that doesn't have the death penalty deserved to have horrible crimes happen everyday.

It just shows your lack of compassion, as well as extreme ignorance.

[edit on 19-10-2008 by ben420]



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 01:27 AM
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i agree with ben 100%. the death penelty works and you dont need guns to be safe but it does help. as for this man. well hes a dumass there is one in every family. he jsut needs to understand that facebook is not a reason not to talk to your wife. maybe she lied on facebook. and maybe he does deserve to die but thats up to one man only.



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 02:34 AM
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Stop,think....the death penalty does not prevent mental instability.We don't have the death penalty in the UK as we don't want state sponsored murder.Two wrongs don't make right and while I'd like to see most peado's swinging from a tree at times it's still not right to kill people for crimes.You have to take into consideration miscarriages of justice too.

As for Facebook being to blame,it's probably the accesabilty that made it easy for the husband to find out his wife was unhappy.Since most homes have a computer nowawdays if people see things like this theres no chance to cool down and think or get advice.Sad really.



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 09:13 AM
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I dont feel one bit sorry for her. Sounds like a whore to me.
I mean dang keep your legs together until you ATLEAST start your dang divorce.
Maybe I was raised better, sounds to me like she got what she deserved.
If more people snapped we would quickly rid the gene pool of this filth.
Eugenics anyone?

Guys can be whores too dont get me wrong, it just seems like this is the norm with women. Ive seen so many relationships where the girl just looses attraction for the guy and doesnt bother to work anything out. No counceling, no talking, wont get help, nothing. Then the next thing theyre doing is cheating. And eventually leaving. However they usually dont leave until they have backups. I suppose men are capable of this too, But I havent seen it near as much as with women.

I went thru a very rough incident in my marrige, I wasnt attracted to my wife for an entire year. Wouldnt sleep with her or anything. I was so tempted to cheat. But because I loved her I did not. I can honestly tell myself I am better than most of the people on this planet. Because those people would have. Love is supposed to mean something, if you cheat or throw your legs open 4 days after you spperate, youre trash. And youre stealing my air.



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 09:38 AM
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Originally posted by asmeone2
They were already split up WUKky. And email is considered "hearsay" in most places and thus not admissible in courty.[edit on 18-10-2008 by asmeone2]


Intelligence garnered from e-mail interception is at the cornerstone of the UK Government's plans for anti-terror (read "anti-population") measures, supporting the ever-growing desire to intercept ALL means of communication between ANYBODY.

The categorisation of "hearsay" doesn't even come into it. If you're shot stone-dead for somebody THINKING that you're guilty, that is pretty much the same effect as being guilty and tried.



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 12:17 PM
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Originally posted by SugarCube

Originally posted by asmeone2
They were already split up WUKky. And email is considered "hearsay" in most places and thus not admissible in courty.[edit on 18-10-2008 by asmeone2]


Intelligence garnered from e-mail interception is at the cornerstone of the UK Government's plans for anti-terror (read "anti-population") measures, supporting the ever-growing desire to intercept ALL means of communication between ANYBODY.

The categorisation of "hearsay" doesn't even come into it. If you're shot stone-dead for somebody THINKING that you're guilty, that is pretty much the same effect as being guilty and tried.



I think I missed something here... I was talking about a civil court proceeding... if you bring email or blog postings into a divorce case and try to use them as evidence, they will be considered heresey, akin to "Well so and so-told-me-" thus not admissible as evidence, unless the person in question has made a specific threat (as in action, date, place) and has a history to indicate he may follow through.

I don't see how government survelience plays a role at all here... a civil case is not like a trial. The state doesn't have to gather evidence against you, they judge on the evidence you present. Most civil courts are so overwhelmed anyway I doubt they would bother to collect the evidence, anyway.



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 12:35 PM
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Well if you really do feel it necessary to murder your wife, you really want to do it in the UK.

The guy will likely be back on the street in 10 years.

I am convinced that the UK's insanely weak judicial system contributes to some of these violent crimes.



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by Memysabu
I dont feel one bit sorry for her. Sounds like a whore to me.
I mean dang keep your legs together until you ATLEAST start your dang divorce.
Maybe I was raised better, sounds to me like she got what she deserved.

She just changed her status to single four days after he moved out so they were seperated.. that does not suggest she was opening her legs (not that thats relevent). Whore? Deserved to be violently murdered? I do not think you were raised well at all.


[edit on 19-10-2008 by riley]



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 01:03 PM
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I read the article and never caught how long they had been together.

It sounds to me like they both had problems. He loved her a LOT and she didn't love him at all (whore). It's unfortunate, I've been in the same situation. It's very tough to get over when you love someone a lot and then that person begins to want to split up, for seemingly no reason, and then after wards, while you're still in love with them, crying and wondering why and what happened, writing blogs about your love for her or for each other and then you go to their myspace or facebook page only to see that you, for some odd reason, after all you've done with and for this person, were a good riddance and that she is open and ready for other men.

This doesn't justify murder, I'm just saying that I can understand his rage in the moment being that he most likely has a strong passion for life and his love and little ability to control it.

If the wife was trying to send a message to him and straighten him up or whatever, she went about it in completely the wrong way. You don't play with people's heart and/or love, the most precious and sensitive thing to a Human Being, to get a message across, or to even just simply do it because you can. She should have been a bit more considerate and waited longer to show him that she cared about their relationship a little, and he shouldn't have murdered her.

[edit on 19-10-2008 by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal]



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 01:10 PM
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Originally posted by disgustedbyhumanity
I would say facebook probably saved a life. If he would have found out by seeing her out with someone instead, then it probably would have been two dead instead of one.




Yup seen that happen before at a party one time...

Besides the internet has been breaking up marriages sense chat rooms came about.

My brothers wife left him to meet some guy about 1200 miles away while he was working construction. Well when the guy saw her he litterally ran according to what she told my sister.

My brother-in-law then decided to tell my brother and he really didn't care he just yelled at her for putting all those extra miles on his car and the cost of gas. He was hoping she would leave so he wouldn't have to worry about alamony etc.

Funny thing is her parents paid for marriage counseling because they did not want her living with them again lol... She's bad really bad and I'll leave it at that.



posted on Oct, 19 2008 @ 01:12 PM
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Facebook always gets a bad rap. It's good if you use it responsibly. Obviously there were problems in the relationship. Maybe the wife realized he was a psycho and left when she did thinking she'd be safe. It's too bad that she had the courage to leave and was still killed.



posted on Nov, 2 2008 @ 10:40 PM
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I think we should be careful to cast any blame on Facebook. I don't think it is what caused their marriage to end. It more likely ended due to
a) her infidelity brought to light by Facebook
b) his irrational jealousy incited by Facebook
In either of those cases, Facebook is not the root cause, but rather, an enabler or catalyst or something else. Facebook in and of itself is cannot be assigned blame because it is neither good nor bad. The interactions of it's users are what can and should be judged.



posted on Nov, 3 2008 @ 12:55 AM
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Wayne Forrester, 34, attacked his wife Emma after she wrote on the site that she wanted to meet other men.


If I was a woman attached to a man this violent, I'd want to meet other men too.


She also changed her online profile to "single" four days after he had moved out.


If I were her, I would have done it on day one. Easier to meet a nice man that way. It's not like she was stating she was single while he was still with her.

Sad really. She probably went through hell to get rid of him in the first place, seeing what a violent person he was.



Originally posted by WatchNLearn
I have always thought it was only a matter of time that Facebook or MySpace would start breaking up marriages, but I didn't think it would go this far.


I don't think Facebook broke up this marriage. It was dead anyway. It just made it obvious to the man, who was in denial. Like getting that SMS that was meant for someone else. My wife uses Facebook all the time, and I've never had the urge to see her profile because we are happy.

If your partner doesn't want to be with you anymore, it's not hard to tell if you're not in denial.

[edit on 3/11/08 by NuclearPaul]



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